Posted on 12/27/2019 12:07:48 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
In August 1939, just before Germany’s invasion of Poland, Hitler gave the order to “kill without pity or mercy, all men, women and children of Polish descent or language.” Consequently, all Polish nobles, clergy, Jews and intelligentsia were to be liquidated. Furthermore, on 15 March 1940, Gestapo leader Heinrich Himmler ordered that “all Poles will disappear from the world. It is imperative that the great German nation considers the elimination of Polish people as its chief task.”
It was prescribed to the whole Slavic ethnicity regardless of nationality.
Too bad modern Ukrainian Nazis are too stupid to learn history.
Oh really?!?! Why were the Slovaks allowed their own State, but not the Poles? Slovaks and Poles are both Slavic peoples. Why were Slavic Ukrainians allowed to be guards at the Death Camps, but not Poles?
Says a Russian guy under the article describing Putin's obsession about Poland & Ww2...
“Russian independence day is after the eviction of Polish administration from Kremlin.”
Holy Putin ! Again, no obsession what so ever, we look into the future...
Anyway, are you guys celebrating on that day or mourning the lost opportunity of joining civilization ?
Serbs, Polish, Russians, Belorusians were viewed as the most implacable. The rest they planned to kill or enslave after.
Yes, it’s different because it’s very unusual to find passionate hatred in America remaining from the civil war. Most of it is almost humorous ribbing. We don’t set national policy from the civil war anymore. And the actual people who fought it had a series of reunions and BBQs in the 19teens and 1920s.
Despite a few modern communists trying to take down monuments, the Civil war is not a major animus for anything beyond the extreme minority in America.
Europeans are different. They passionately hate the others for lame meaningless Euro-squabbles from decades and centuries ago.
While it was common to view local officials who stayed in office as collaborators, I wouldn't assume that they were all war criminals or collaborators in the deeper sense.
Some of them thought that they still had the usual work to do to keep society going. Others thought their families would starve if they gave up their positions.
The French television program "A French Village" examines some of the dilemmas faced by local officials.
Not all of them were involved in the Shoah. Some were foot dragging obstructionists. Others had connections to the resistance. The situation was similar throughout occupied Europe and very different from what any of us have experienced.
Nobody is obsessed about it. Putin is only talking about it because any Polish-related issue always gets back to WWII. It is not Putin who starts it but the Polish side and it is his reaction. The same with Baltic states. There is plenty of this on YouTube. There is a discussion of trade and some Estonian journalist always asks: ‘Is it hard to apologize for occupation?’ Every freaking time. Everyone would go ballistic after that.
And no Czech person today gives a crap about what happened.
A manly photo. And plenty on the other side. Hard to imagine a soldier acting that way, leading a woman somewhere for striping naked and murdering.
Sickos.
Oh shut up azzwipe. I include all of Europe in that statement, including Russians. They all worry about crap from decades ago and ignore the reality of today.
I call em as I see em. And you’re flying a German flag on your page. Bite me blockhead. See ya on the barricades...
I’d never even heard of Palmiry. So many massacres on both sides then. Bloodlands is a good book about it. Basically the thesis is that from the mass murder of Stalin in the 1930s, through WWII, and basically until the death of Stalin in the 50s there were two full decades of mass murder in Poland, Ukraine, Belarus and eastern Europe.
And now they are busy stirring the pot again. They never learned a thing and all want revenge.
People say the 8th Air Force bombing of Germany and the nukes on Japan were ineffective. But Germany and Japan were blasted into complete submissive pacifism.
Russians generally doesn’t care. The article is fake news. BBC as usual is reporting it from their perspective. Putin was merely commenting on a resolution of Europarliament condemning the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. The resolution passed on the initiative of the Polish representatives in 2019. Now tell me who are obsessed with what? He is merely reminding them that there are more pressing issues and Poland has plenty of own dirty laundry regarding that period.
All in all I believe instead of producing irrelevant resolutions Polish government should better work on making their country more attractive to stop their people from going to Germany to clean toilets and doing other jobs like that.
What was effective, was the occupation and rebuilding of those countries after the war.
Compare with how WWI ended, and it led to all of the conspiratory “Stabbed in the Back” theories, that helped to propel Hitler to power.
It’s an offshoot of the “Polish Death Camps” imbroglio (even Obama used the term).
I don’t blame Poles for being sensitive to that.
“Why were Slavic Ukrainians allowed to be guards at the Death Camps, but not Poles?”
Solid point. And other slavs fought in the east at Stalingrad with the Nazis.
The term is phonetically correct by the way but I understand the sensitivity behind it. In Russia nobody says ‘Polish death camps’.
True, a Czech today would look at you like some kinda nut if you asked how angry they are about WWII.
It’s related to their basic intelligence. They are busy living in 2019.
I think that’s because the Czechs pretty much got their revenge on the Germans in 1945. They were brutal.
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