Posted on 08/22/2019 7:27:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
I am a descendant of the Spaniards who came to New Mexico in the early 1600s.
The local Indian tribes would war with each other and steal each other’s children to sell to the Spaniards as slaves or servants.
They knew the Spaniards would buy them in order to baptize them into Christianity. Of course they then married them.
For this reason no one can saw they are part Apache or Ute etc. because the bloodlines are all mixed up.
Quite interesting really.
Similar to what Alexander almost pulled off at Gaugamela. Both times a smaller force managed to virtually decapitate a much larger force arrayed against them.
A Fact is not an opinion.
More like communism/socialism wills it.
Say it ain’t so Joe. Cortez the Killer was actually Cortez the Liberator ? I need to get to my safe space quick. Later....
In regards the English settlements:
There’s also the attempted genocide by the Indians in 1622, set up by joining settlers for breakfast, or meeting for trade, and keeping women and children as slaves after slaughtering all the men. It was a year before the surviving settlers found out that many of the women were still alive.
This also follows the propensity to pretend friendly acts, like offering services as hunting guides, and then ambushing and holding captive the “friends”.
That’s going to color things.
Even Powhattan, who offered the settlers a place to build a town, tried to coerce them into being a captive settlement to produce goods for him.
https://phys.org/news/2019-05-aztec-allies-ritually-disfigured-captured.html
Zultepec was an Aztec-allied town that in 1520 captured a convoy of about 15 male Spaniards, 50 women and 10 children, 45 foot soldiers who included Cubans of African and indigenous descent, and about 350 allies from indigenous groups in what is now Mexico. All were apparently sacrificed over the space of months.
But the dismemberments were not random acts of bloodthirstiness or revenge. Rather, the experts said, the inhabitants of Zultepec were re-creating or imitating mythological scenes with the bodies.
“The inhabitants of Zultepec were re-creating creation myths,” archaeologist Enrique Martínez said.
For example, one Spanish male was dismembered and burned to replicate the mythical fates of Aztec-era gods, according to one myth known as “El Quinto Sol,” or Fifth Sun.
The convoy was comprised of people sent from Cuba in a second expedition a year after Hernan Cortes’ initial landing in 1519 and they were heading to the Aztec capital with supplies and the conquerors’ possessions. Cortes had been forced to leave the convoy on its own while trying to rescue his troops from an uprising in what is now Mexico City.
Members of the captured convoy were held prisoner in door-less cells, where they were fed over six months, the experts said. Little by little, the town sacrificed and apparently ate the horses, men and women. But pigs brought by the Spaniards for food were apparently viewed with such suspicion that they were killed whole and left uneaten.
In contrast, the skeletons of the captured Europeans were torn apart and bore cut marks indicating the meat was removed from the bones.
The town then took on the name Tecoaque, which means “the place where they ate them” in Nahuatl, the Aztec language.
When Cortes learned what happened to his followers, he sent troops there on a punitive expedition. The inhabitants tried to hide all remains of the Spaniards by tossing them in shallow wells and abandoned the town.
Cortes went on to conquer the Aztec capital in 1521.
It is similar to Pizarro’s victory in Peru. He charged to the center and captured the king. In many primitive, even relatively sophisticated primitive societies, you take the leader or the Totem- the symbol of the tribe’s god, the good-luck piece and the spirit goes out of them and they collapse and flee.
It was Mayans in the movie. They indulged in human sacrifice and probably cannibalism also but the Aztecs were at the apex of that system.
Good point — those ziggurat temples are Mayan, not Aztec. Yet they’re behaving like Aztecs, and the timeframe would seem to make them Aztecs. I hadn’t thought about it before but I’m now realizing the movie has its history kind of jumbled up.
The language was one of the Mayan languages, too.
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