Epstein’s Cellmate Was Removed One Day Before the Pedophile’s Death

Gateway Pundit ^ | 08-12-19 | Cassandra Fairbanks

[SamAdams76]

Again, sloppy reporting here.

In order for Epstein's cellmate to be "removed", Epstein first had to have a roommate. Yet it is also reported that he never had a cellmate, only that he was going to get one at some point. Eventually.

[BushCountry]

New York Magazine

Another alleged Epstein victim, Sarah Ransome, has said that Maxwell and Epstein kept her passport when she was trafficked to his private island. She once allegedly tried to swim away before she was brought back. Reports have claimed that girls as young as 12 were brought to the island for sex with Epstein.

[BushCountry]

Huh, this is a headline story on Fox’s website too.

[mass55th]

"Yet, no one has bothered to check the paperwork. It makes better headlines to spin the story without any facts."

You hit the nail on the head. Nobody even knows if he ever had another cellmate once he was removed from suicide watch. If he did tell staff someone had tried to kill him, he more than likely wouldn't have had anyone else placed with him.

Prison facilities hate it when somebody offs themselves, or gets murdered behind bars, because it creates a lot of paperwork, and nobody likes to have to deal with that, or the legal ramifications that could ensue. Correctional Officers are told not to make their rounds at set times, because the inmates will clock you, and be able to plan whatever mischief they want during the time they know you won't be around. We were told to conduct our rounds at irregular times, so the inmates would have no idea that we were coming. That wasn't so easy in Auburn Prison where I started, because you had to unlock the end gate, and lock it behind you once you entered the gallery. They always knew when you were coming, because it was like an echo chamber, and inevitably, your keys would jingle, or there'd be a transmission on your radio. It was a very rare occurrence when you could sneak up on anyone walking down the gallery. Once you entered the gallery, some inmate would yell "walking", and everyone would then know that an officer was approaching.

On midnights, the place was very quiet. Two officers worked each block, and they would make their rounds together...on a staggered schedule. One officer would stand on the gallery landing, and unlock the end gate, while the other officer walked down the gallery to check on the inmates using a flash light. You'd be locked on the gallery, and at the other end of the gallery, was another end gate that you had a key for to let yourself off, and lock behind you. There was another landing at the back where you let yourself out to, and you'd simply walk across to the end gate on the other side of the block, unlock it, and make your way down that gallery, checking inmates along the way. The second officer would be standing at the front end gate, waiting for you to finish so they could let you off, and lock the gallery back up. There were at least 6 galleries in each block at Auburn: A, B, C, D, and E. A block was where inmates who worked in the industrial area were kept. B block was for all the mess hall workers. C block was for inmates who went to school, and had jobs in other parts of the prison. D block was mostly for new inmates who had come in, and may not yet be assigned a program. Can't remember who was housed in E-block except for the Honor gallery, which was the top floor of the building.

[JohnBrowdie]

lol. the ron brown crash, right on schedule. the inmates are truly running the asylum now.

[Captain Peter Blood]

Why would he have even had a cellmate? This guy was high profile and should not have had any cellmate, especially and ex-cop charged with 4 murders. This whole thing defies belief.

[HighSierra5]

Maybe he slammed his head against something. I’d think that they would have him in a rubber room.

[BushCountry]

Why would he have even had a cellmate? This guy was high profile and should not have had any cellmate, especially and ex-cop charged with 4 murders. This whole thing defies belief.

If true, to deliver a message.

[wardaddy]

I’ve got five kids I’m pretty familiar when puberty usually starts

Around 11-12 these days

I’m unaware any of the charges involved girls who were pre mense

But i have heard the innuendo

We dilute all salacious and pejorative labels now with less than former qualifications

Racism

Anti semitism

Sexism

And now pedophile

I promise you ask the average freeper and they will ascertain underaged girls is by definition pedophilia now

It seems that way in how the word is tossed around so easily now

Pedolphila to me is a man or woman with pre puberty children

Subway sandwich boy or Paula Poundstone

Pedophiles

Epstein I’m not sure

Guilty of Illegal underaged girls.....definitely

Is it social media that creates these looser definitions

I say this all the time here and it’s lost on many

Conservatism is about empirical observation...truths we see which we can’t deny....tempered by a God given morality and dealt with through reason

Sort of Burke meets Socrates and Jesus

Many here just like the sound and fury

I think more so today than ever in my 20 years here

I don’t think Epstein killed himself.....that’s a logical conclusion

[BushCountry]

I’ve got five kids I’m pretty familiar when puberty usually starts.

Anecdotal. The law says, “The age in boys after fourteen years until full age, and in girls after twelve years until full age.”

So, if he did recruit 12 years, he by definition is a pedophile.

After hearing that a murderous muscle bound freak was his cell mate and moved hours before his death. I think the murderous ex-cop delivered a message. Kill yourself or suffer a life of rape and beatings.

This is actually more plausible than most theories.

[wardaddy]

There is a difference between pedophilia and underage of consent

Consent age is much higher

That is my point

When did the media for the most part and many Freepers decide underage and pedophilia were interchangeable

I’m 61

When I was a kid

Paedophilia was sex by an adult with a girl before she had mense or a boy before puberty which means essentially prior to ejaculation capable

Now it’s used here and in most media for sex by an adult with anyone under aged

So when did it change and is this now the new definition as opposed to the old one

“Pedophilia (alternatively spelt paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.[1][2] Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12,[3] criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.[4] A person must be at least 16 years old, and at least five years older than the prepubescent child, for the attraction to be diagnosed as pedophilia.[4][5]”

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I would also note too the age of consent has been raised much higher than in my youth to where now an 18 year old boy with a 15 year old girl is a paedophile to media and many Freepers

A notion that would have been absurd in my youth

1960s and 1970s

This is a legitimate line of questioning

So I’m asking other thinkers here

As a curiosity via the new thinking

My maternal grandfather and both great grandfathers were paedophiles

Though I don’t think they or their wives felt as such

As for Epstein....I guess we will see if he qualifies for the old definition as well

We know he qualifies for the new interpretation

[YogicCowboy]

You are focusing on one tree, instead of the forest.

In many decades of trafficking, involving reputedly many hundreds of children, girls apparently for him, but boys presumably for his clients, do you really imagine that every single girl or boy had experienced puberty? The extant accusers are a fraction of a fraction of the potential number of victims.

If he was really running a business catering to the perverted desires of the wealthy and powerful, that almost certainly included literal pedophiles, whether Epstein himself followed that depraved suit or not.

We have a categorical legal age for puberty, as for consent, because objective, not subjective, criteria are necessary, but biologically, a girl who has not had her first menses has not undergone puberty, and some experience that later: The legal age is essentially a normative generalization.

It has been made clear that he only wanted the young, and victims eventually aged out in his perverse estimation.

If I wanted to do so, I could critique the grammar, syntax, and spelling of nearly any posting by nearly any poster on this site. I score in the top half of the top one percentile in Standard English. Yes, I know the word, ephebophile.

I prefer to deal with the larger issue, which is the network of exploitation and slavery of vulnerable children, whether pre- or post-pubescent.

[YogicCowboy]

Diet plays an enormous role in the onset of puberty. A modern high-fat diet promotes earlier puberty. Sex hormones are derived from lipids.

The boys in the Gregorian through Renaissance periods typically attained puberty much later, and so were able to sing soprano in church choirs to a much later date than nowadays. In other words, there were no fast-food joints with greasy fries in the neighborhood.

Children from another culture, especially a more primitive one, or American children raised in a an environment using more healthful and ancient practices (which are often lower in total fat content), may experience puberty later.

(I am a nutritionist, and have served in ministry. I happen to know home-schooling households that prepare all their own meals, which are much lower in fat content.)

You both have children, fine. Extrapolating from one family to entire populations is just as hypothetical as what you, wardaddy, are criticizing.

Jeffrey Epstein had estates abroad, and by several accounts imported foreign girls, often from impoverished cultures. I personally assume that there were indeed actual pre-pubescent girls in his net; to assume the opposite is, I submit, less realistic.

Regardless, I repeat, you are focusing on what you regard as a vague or ambiguous use of one term, and losing sight of the greater concern: the serial sexual abuse of legal minors below the age of consent, whether resulting in pedophilia, hebephilia, or ephebophilia.

If you care so much about the specificity of terminology used in socio-political debate, then you are free to start your own blog to pursue that.

[wardaddy]

Oh really....if I disagree with what you consider the majority opinion here I should just shut up and do my own blog

You actually opined that Mr 2014?

Don’t try to tell me you’ve lurked since 1997 or lost your old 1998 password ....bullshite

I’ve got a newsflash for you.....the majority or let’s say loudestview here is on occasion ....wrong....it’s hard to tell the majority since JR doesn’t do pollls anymore

In fact very wrong.....as in being pro Bush amnesty in early to late 2000s...yes and you could get zotted for it...like I was

Supported Giuliani in 2007/08...and left when JR forbid it

Supported the now looking back in hindsight stupid Iraq war.....I was guilty of that one

And so forth

What I find most intriguing is how a handful here are utterly butthurt because I as of yet fail to see that Epstein is accused of what is clinically considered paedophilia rather than the sexual exploitation of underaged girls.

The two are not necessarily the same

For some reason my speaking up for an accurate definition of paedophilia really angers some posters

I learned long ago to resist the sound and fury here.

Although admittedly I too am part of it on occasion

I have detected maybe give the tone of todays politics and culture that posters here get personal much faster than say 15 years

If we use terms inaccurately like racism and anti semitism and paedophilia we dilute the impact

Now any man with an underage girl is a pedophile and the media trumpets that

Same media refuses to say that about homosexuals with underage twinks

This is all part of something larger at play and I’m resisting

I’ll think I’ll stick with it until I see more evidence that Epstein did indeed procure pre mense girls

Nite

[kiryandil]

After this, one could argue that resisting any kind of arrest with deadly force is merely "self-defense".

There is no "controlling authority" on keeping a prisoner in custody alive...