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Here's the terrifying reason Boeing's 737 MAX 8 is grounded across the globe
National Post ^ | March 14, 2019 | Tristin Hopper

Posted on 03/14/2019 2:33:55 PM PDT by rickmichaels

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To: Not A Snowbird
with all the automation pilots have forgotten how to actually fly the plane

I agree that that's true in many cases, but by no means in a majority of cases.

I am a flight instructor that occasionally is asked to give a required biennial flight review to airline pilots. In some small minority of those cases, those pilots can be overwhelmed by the workload that faces them in the general aviation craft they've been willing to rent for their review ride with me.

It may not mean they're similarly substandard in their usual front office, but it does mean they've over-estimated their skill at basic flying skills in a craft they don't regularly fly.

61 posted on 03/14/2019 4:13:24 PM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Sorry 2 different Land/TO scenarios neither related


62 posted on 03/14/2019 4:18:19 PM PDT by Bell Bouy II
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To: Stevenfo

“Me understanding is that this system does not function when the auto pilot is switched off”

Exact opposite. MCAS engages WHEN autopilot is switched off. And the special fun is that the pilots were never told the system existed. So they were fighting something that they didn’t even know was happening. They are supposed to decide that the failure is similar to a runaway trim tab and treat it like that, although that isn’t exactly what it is.


63 posted on 03/14/2019 4:22:32 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: isthisnickcool

“mohammad can’t fly?”

Charlie Don’t Surf either.


64 posted on 03/14/2019 4:24:00 PM PDT by carmen2017
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To: Telepathic Intruder

If one faulty sensor can crash the plane then it’s a design flaw. A human would not make the same mistake. Yes, apparently computers can make mistakes.

...

That’s why there are humans in the loop. Any competent pilot can overcome a problem caused by that particular sensor.


65 posted on 03/14/2019 4:25:07 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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To: Moonman62
... Any competent pilot ..

I believe you are hot on the trail here. A pilot, not a Nintendo player in a uniform, would have handled this incident and thought nothing of it, just another day in they office.

66 posted on 03/14/2019 4:26:15 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
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To: rickmichaels
I'm afraid, Dave (2001).....
67 posted on 03/14/2019 4:34:37 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: isthisnickcool

no, the plane is focked up


68 posted on 03/14/2019 4:34:38 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Moonman62

bull shit. 26 times the nose went down. You want to try it?


69 posted on 03/14/2019 4:35:27 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Hostage

no, it’s not


70 posted on 03/14/2019 4:35:47 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Valpal1

“Aaaand... Trump was right as usual.” And he is the only one that had the stones to call a spade a spade. The plane doesn’t work right, it’s spring break, ground the focker.


71 posted on 03/14/2019 4:37:14 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: bigbob

China


72 posted on 03/14/2019 4:37:32 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Moonman62

The problem is Boeing didn’t build a plane that is safe.


73 posted on 03/14/2019 4:38:08 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SandwicheGuy

” a series of complex steps “

in english Flip 2 switches

but if you did not know about the switches it would be hard to turn off the rouge AI.

I had a Cadillac cts that had the traction control turn off switch inside the glovebox. (I know this only cause I read the manual) I never used it during the time I owned the car, but I was aware that it existed.


74 posted on 03/14/2019 4:38:36 PM PDT by algore
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To: rickmichaels

Two crashes, in two Third World countries, with at least a hundred million Muslims.

I’ll make up my mind after I read ALL the evidence.

By the way - Ethiopia refuses to turn over the Black Boxes and Control Tower and Cockpit tapes.

Have any USA investigators examined the Boxes or the tapes from the Indonesia crash?

Bottom Line - at the moment, these are just Third World despots trying to extract the maximum amount of money possible from Boeing.


75 posted on 03/14/2019 4:38:42 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: MeganC

” “The 737 MAX 8 has heavier and more fuel-efficient engines than prior editions of the 737, a change which causes the aircraft to pitch upwards ever-so-slightly after takeoff.”

Then that’s the real problem that needs to be fixed, not the faulty software that was a band-aid for the problem.”

Bingo. Then you don’t need the stupid software fix.


76 posted on 03/14/2019 4:39:31 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: zeestephen

I saw the Ethiopian black boxes are in France.
Who’s gonna do the analysis?


77 posted on 03/14/2019 4:40:43 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Vigilanteman

“More like Mohammad can’t land safely.”

YOu don’t get it do you? Your distrust of Moslems overrides all. The plane’s operating system is FAULTY. see now?


78 posted on 03/14/2019 4:40:54 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: rickmichaels
There is nothing wrong with the basic mechanics of the aircraft: Its engines, wings and control surfaces are all believed to be working fine. Rather, the passenger jet may have killed 346 people for the terrifyingly modern reason that human pilots were unable to override a malfunctioning computer.

And we're going to have driver less cars?

79 posted on 03/14/2019 4:45:24 PM PDT by KevinB (If I'm ever arrested, I'm switching parties.)
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To: nascarnation

I did not write that clearly.

I meant Ethiopia had refused to turn over the Boxes and tapes to USA investigators.


80 posted on 03/14/2019 4:46:02 PM PDT by zeestephen
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