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“The Phantom Universe” –There’s a New ‘Unknown’ Messing with the Cosmos
Daily Galaxy ^ | 3/9/19

Posted on 03/10/2019 1:28:42 AM PST by LibWhacker

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1 posted on 03/10/2019 1:28:42 AM PST by LibWhacker
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Need funding for 5 or 10 more years to answer the question. Job security ad infinatum.


2 posted on 03/10/2019 1:42:54 AM PST by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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“However, the two best methods used to measure the Hubble constant do not agree...”

A person with two clocks never knows what time it is.

I knew a guy that built and was an expert with gravity instrumentation. He was hire years ago by the military to try to measure anti-gravity. (Missles weren’t landing where they were supposed to, and anti-gravity was suspected.)

I think it was something else, or - once GPS came along, perhaps they didn’t need to worry about anomalies in the gravity. (They took into account the various geology the missle’s traveled over.)

Anyway - this expert didn’t discount the idea of anti-gravity. With all of the other energy fields having a positive and negative effect - why wouldn’t gravity?

I wonder if an anti-gravity effect would solve some of these discrepencies?


3 posted on 03/10/2019 1:44:09 AM PST by 21twelve (!)
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No! The science is settled!

Now give us 70% of your income!


4 posted on 03/10/2019 1:55:40 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-mob)
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As the space between objects (you and me, stars, planets solar systems, galaxies, nebulae )expands, all the objects are going to the same place: the Great Attractor.

The bubbly froth of Baryonic Matter resides on the figurative beer stein of Dark Matter. As the bubbles of Baryonic Matter move, they are driven by the force of Dark Energy ever upward until they burst, retuning to Dark Matter. The Dark Matter also churns forming bubbles the rise to become Baryonic. So too do our souls travel ...


5 posted on 03/10/2019 1:56:54 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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6 posted on 03/10/2019 3:01:38 AM PDT by Bratch (IF YOU HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT CITIZENS, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT LEADERS-George Carlin)
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-- "Nobody knows what drove inflation."
According to Brian Greene's book "Fabric of the Cosmos", it was the Higgs field, before it phase changed into its present form. I assume this is theoretical, however.

-- "I have absolutely no clue what dark energy is"
It is generally thought to be a result of vacuum fluctuations, or zero point energy, which is a result of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principal. The same thing that causes the Casimir effect. But again, in theory.

There is still no good theory explaining dark matter, however. Just speculation, or hypothesis. "Ghost particles" similar to neutrinos but with more mass seems to be the more popular one.
7 posted on 03/10/2019 3:04:14 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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Scientists still don’t have a good naturalistic explanation as to how the first stars formed. The explanation for how planets formed from gas and dust does not work either, as the rocks that form through gravity would collide with each other and break apart again once they reach a certain size. There are lots of example even in our own solar system of planets and moons which should have cooled down ages ago still showing significant geological activity. We recently found out that Saturn’s rings which were assumed to have formed in the early stages of our solar system can only last for a few hundred million years at most. The surface of Venus looks young and despite it’s proximity to Earth, it does not share the same makeup, which you might expect if they formed from the same dust cloud in close proximity to each other.

The magnetic field strength of planets derived from the dynamo theory (which is the only theory that fits the billions of years) has failed spectacularly to predict the magnetic field strength of other planets in the solar system. However, a creationist, using his own model based on Genesis, was able to make a stunningly accurate prediction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzyQbOQ0dv0


8 posted on 03/10/2019 3:15:35 AM PDT by winslow
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“Then, after another 100,000 years or so, the new field simply winked off, leaving no trace ... ”

Don't you just love it when a scientist articulates a theory that predicts you won't find any evidence for it?

9 posted on 03/10/2019 3:49:06 AM PDT by dartuser
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Currently gravity overcomes expansion at local group galactic (and you and me) levels. The Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies will collide in about five billion years. Your coffee cup isn’t getting any farther from you.

Eventually expansion will tear apart the nuclei of atoms. Eventually, each fundamental particle will be so far apart in expanding space that even if traveling towards one another at the speed of light they will never meet.

Each fundamental particle will, in a practical sense, be alone in the universe. Nothing in any direction forever.

10 posted on 03/10/2019 3:49:39 AM PDT by coaster123 (Bring back the curtsy. - If one is alive one is privileged.)
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Low interest rates and expanding economy drive inflation...silly physicists.


11 posted on 03/10/2019 3:50:44 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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I used to be able to bend over and touch my toes. But over time, my body, like the universe, expanded and now they’re too far away to touch.


12 posted on 03/10/2019 4:00:16 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (ui)
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Currently gravity overcomes expansion at local group galactic (and you and me) levels.


That is the theory, but since the larger group is also subject to gravity, that group must (to be consistent) also overcome the expansion - a seeming logical fallacy.

What’s the difference between space expanding between stellar objects and me and the coffee cup, since you cite that: “Eventually expansion will tear apart the nuclei of atoms”?

I have no idea what you are made of, but I assume like the rest of us, you are made up of atoms which will eventually be torn apart by expansion. All of which I said in my original post - just not in those words.

And yes, during the course of a morning typing all this stuff, my coffee cup has a mysterious way of getting further away somehow, worse, every once in a while the liquid inside seems to vanish, forcing me to move further from my desk and into the kitchen for more of the liquid (dark energy at work, perhaps?).


13 posted on 03/10/2019 4:01:37 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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Saturn’s rings which were assumed to have formed in the early stages of our solar system can only last for a few hundred million years at most.

Undoubtedly that's due to mankind's mistreatment of the environment. We'll need a massive new government program to stave that off.

14 posted on 03/10/2019 4:17:27 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Break it off in 'em, Brett. They've earned it, and you've earned it.)
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The fabric of space affects time if I remember my Einstein correctly. If the expansion rate of universe is accelerating, how does that affect time? Rather than linear could time be exponential from the perspective of the universe’s boundary and/or from the point of origin?


15 posted on 03/10/2019 4:29:26 AM PDT by IFly4Him
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In the beginning God created the heavens (Space/time) and the earth (Matter).

It is just as valid a theory as their recently fabricated big bang fairy tale.

True science looks for facts. Religious zealotry looks to twist "facts" to fit their "religion" even if they call their religion science.

16 posted on 03/10/2019 5:37:00 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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“if this model is right, dark energy may be in a particularly virulent and — most physicists say — implausible form called phantom energy."

Words like "virulent", " implausible", and "phantom" are not science, they are prose. This entire article is nothing but fiction, written by an ignorant novelist. Ignore it.

17 posted on 03/10/2019 5:41:50 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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There is no “dark energy”. There is no “mysterious” force, other than the natural forces of the universe which humans are just in the kindergarten stage of understanding, and which human math, assumptions and calculations still contain errors; errors which represent some distance yet between what we think we are sure about, and what actually is.

At some future date, the “dark energy” and other mysteries will be solved NOT by “finding” “dark energy” but by correcting our errors that led us to think there was “dark energy”.


18 posted on 03/10/2019 7:00:51 AM PDT by Wuli
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Seriously? This is not 1940, we know these “scientists” have simply been peddling whatever brings money as scientific truth. I am fascinated by Einstein’s time dilation.


19 posted on 03/10/2019 7:12:46 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Do you know anyone who isnÂ’t a socialist after 65? Freedom exchanged for cash and control.)
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Of course “correcting our errors” might involve replacing the seemingly ramshackle “standard model” with something more mathematically elegant. (However the “standard model” keeps chugging along withstanding all challenges!) This “correction” might involve a whole theory with explanations “new particles\forces” for dark energy & matter.


20 posted on 03/10/2019 7:15:48 AM PDT by Reily
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