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Q Anon: 12/15/18 Trust Trump's Plan
qmap.pub ^ | 12/15/18 | FReepers, vanity

Posted on 12/15/2018 10:05:02 PM PST by ransomnote

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To: little jeremiah; Enigo54

I’ve focused on why Flynn pled guilty, now questioning why he was charged in the first place.
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There is also thought that Mueller team threatened to bring Flynn’s son into it, so he did this to keep his son safe. Could be a little bit of all of it...

Flynn is not a rookie, I’m sure he knows how the game is played either way.


1,641 posted on 12/18/2018 12:13:07 PM PST by StormFlag (May the Light shine and darkness remove, MAGA)
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To: upsdriver
A little primer on the history of treason: the people had had enough

June 23, 1960, The Aspermont Star, Aspermont, Texas

TREASON

The history of liberty often shows that a would-be tyrant likes to accuse his opponents of treason. So, to safeguard our liberty the constitution itself sets out the kind of proof we need to find some one guilty of treason.

For this reason America has had relatively few cases of treason. not so in early English and Roman law. "Treasonous acts" covered many things, in fact, anything that seemed to threaten the community safety.

In the fourteenth century the English tried to define treason: Since every subject owed allegiance to the King, trivial breaches of a private nature became "petite (small) treason." But a subject disloyal enough as to attack or plot against the king himself was guilty of "high" treason.

The kings liked this: For one to imagine the king's death became treason subject to death.

The broadened treason widen-ed further to include crimes against private persons. Later even the king himself was not exempt: In 1649 they indicted, convicted, and beheaded King Charles I for treason.

King Henry VIII made it high treason to slander Queen Anne or her children. Failure to take an oath not to slander the queen itself became treason.

Under Elizabeth I it became treason for anyone to hold a religion which did not conform to the crown's.

Conviction of treason was easy. In some cases you needed to witnesses. Trials were short and the accused could not have defense counsel.

In conflicts for power, the losing politicians often became "traitors" as they do in many countries to this day. Our early settlers lived in troubled times with the coming revolution creating new factions. For them treason was also a frequent accusation.

But after the revolution the founding fathers and the people had had enough.

They decided to limit "treason" and faced these problems: Should the new executive put down rebellious and define treasons himself? Should the Congress during 'troubled times' have the power to define treason?

No. The new Constitution took treason out of politics. It said treason "shall consist only of levying war against the United States or in giving aid and comfort to the enemy."

Conviction required testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act.

1,642 posted on 12/18/2018 12:14:04 PM PST by Rona Badger (Heeds the calling wind.)
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To: RitaOK
The simple answer is that the Deep State protects their own.

Hillary had 9 lawyers in her interview with the FBI.

Once you stop trying to make equivalence arguments (like Podesta did it too) you will see things more clearly.

Team Trump has no offense. They haven't brought one charge against a deep state operative.

Of course there are three future predictions of Q. But if those don't materialize then Trump is pretty much screwed, sadly.

1,643 posted on 12/18/2018 12:14:36 PM PST by Jack Black ("If you believe in things that you don't understand then you suffer" - "Superstition",Stevie Wonder)
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To: ransomnote
Economics with the use of Game theory Trump is implementing

"Trump the "GAME THEORY" False Court Jester"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnIOh_-Pnn8

1,644 posted on 12/18/2018 12:14:39 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Aquamarine

Exactly! Finally the good rise up with the good. Perfect? Perhaps not, but good rising for good.

I do the same thing in normal life, have defended he rights of those who HATED me (as I did them), but what they were accused of wasn’t true. Good for Good!


1,645 posted on 12/18/2018 12:14:46 PM PST by Enigo54 (Hank Reardon was right)
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To: StormFlag

Flynn is and continues to be a spook, doing spooky things. If they think they have him, they are wrong.


1,646 posted on 12/18/2018 12:16:12 PM PST by Enigo54 (Hank Reardon was right)
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To: Rona Badger

Great observations!


1,647 posted on 12/18/2018 12:17:07 PM PST by Enigo54 (Hank Reardon was right)
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To: Rona Badger

BTW you have mail


1,648 posted on 12/18/2018 12:19:14 PM PST by Enigo54 (Hank Reardon was right)
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To: Aquamarine

Agreed.

In the end, March sentencing date or NOT, FLYNN will be cleared.

Judge says he will take into consideration FLYNN’s cooperation with the “government”.

Curiously, Sully does not say exactly say, “cooperation with the FBI” (and the Mueller persecutors). Sully says, “government”.

Could Judge Sully be informed of FLYNN cooperating with another investigation and a *different* Special Counsel investigation? Huber, others?

Maybe this is quite a reach for a question of mine.


1,649 posted on 12/18/2018 12:19:18 PM PST by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Ed & Academia are the FARM TEAM for more Marxists coming, infinitum.)
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To: mairdie
It was the UK finity sym and ol on the headsro e at Arlington that got me thinking of "Windmills of Your Mind."

Round like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel
Never ending or beginning on an ever spinning reel

Reading further I was surprised at it poetically describes what we're doing on this thread.

1,650 posted on 12/18/2018 12:19:23 PM PST by Oratam
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1,651 posted on 12/18/2018 12:20:06 PM PST by Chuckster (Battlestar Galactica is not fiction)
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To: Enigo54
That story is out of date given this mornings court room events, eh?

The judge brought up the traitor label again today. Flynn doubled down on his guilty pleas.

1,652 posted on 12/18/2018 12:21:09 PM PST by Jack Black ("If you believe in things that you don't understand then you suffer" - "Superstition",Stevie Wonder)
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To: RitaOK

I believe you are exactly correct!


1,653 posted on 12/18/2018 12:21:10 PM PST by Enigo54 (Hank Reardon was right)
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To: Enigo54
Great observations!
If only the madding crowd would agree with you! The term is being bandied about with great hysteria today and yet they know nothing of the meaning!
1,654 posted on 12/18/2018 12:21:10 PM PST by Rona Badger (Heeds the calling wind.)
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To: Enigo54

Judge Sullivan got sandbagged by Team Meuller. Sullivan says Flynn is guilty of Treason then has to back track. Meuller feeding the wrong information and refusing to comply with the real information.


1,655 posted on 12/18/2018 12:22:10 PM PST by DrDude (THE PLAN has been postponed due to extreme apathy!)
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To: EMI_Guy

<< “ ...Flynn’s “on-air” name has been upgraded to “Michael” from “Mike” that was used earlier in the afternoon. “ >>>

Droning in the background, FOX is doing the same thing. Perino, Shepherd. It’s Michael. FLYNN.

Thanks for bringing that detail to our attention.


1,656 posted on 12/18/2018 12:22:45 PM PST by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Ed & Academia are the FARM TEAM for more Marxists coming, infinitum.)
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To: Rona Badger

It’s purely an NPC attic to get you to respond, thats it. The ‘norms’ have a knee-jerk reaction to words like traitor, so they use it and use the excuse “well the judge said it” then refuse to admit that the judge took it back in a most humble(ed) fashion.


1,657 posted on 12/18/2018 12:23:16 PM PST by Enigo54 (Hank Reardon was right)
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To: DrDude

Thats what Im goin with, yep!


1,658 posted on 12/18/2018 12:23:53 PM PST by Enigo54 (Hank Reardon was right)
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To: RitaOK
Thanks for the warm welcome!

Just found your post, still learning my way around this site, and wanted to clear up a misunderstanding.

I am not a Marine and have never served. I was providing information on a True hero who gave the ultimate sacrifice for our country.

Thank God for men such as Corporal Jesse Wade Stites (USMC)!

1,659 posted on 12/18/2018 12:24:27 PM PST by MoMetMan
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To: RitaOK

Sullivan did sound like he was doing double speak.....the plot thickens.


1,660 posted on 12/18/2018 12:25:00 PM PST by Aquamarine (Where we go one, we go ALL ~ Q)
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