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Malaria and the Fall of Rome
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| February 17, 2011
| Andrew Thompson
Posted on 07/15/2018 4:42:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: MUDDOG
The plague during Justinians reign greatly damaged Byzantium.
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posted on
07/16/2018 3:38:48 AM PDT
by
Jimmy Valentine
(DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
To: Jimmy Valentine
That was a big one. The plague of 541-542 killed maybe 1/4th of the empire. And back then those plagues kept recurring in waves for decades.
Justinian though still had some big military victories in Italy in the 540s and 550s, and Maurice had successful campaigns in the Balkans in the 590s.
The big military reverses didn’t occur until the early 600s, against Persia (although successfully repulsed by Heraclius), and the Muslim onslaught in the middle of the century.
A non-plague factor in the loss of Egypt and Syria was the Monophysite religious conflict, which alienated them from Constantinople.
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posted on
07/16/2018 5:36:47 AM PDT
by
MUDDOG
To: hanamizu
I live in Freetown, Sierra Leone and tell people about DDT and Rachel Carson as many times as I can. I keep hoping some bright entrepreneur will start up a company making DDT and save Africa.
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posted on
07/16/2018 5:50:25 AM PDT
by
wbarmy
(I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
To: central_va
I lived in East Texas and I can remember those trucks. The spray was so cool on hot days.
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posted on
07/16/2018 5:52:57 AM PDT
by
wbarmy
(I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
To: trebb; mewzilla
Fall of Rome... those are not the reasons, particularly not that 1963 thing, someone linked that to me the other day. These are the most important ones:
- The office of emperor (imper iter) was a evolution of the government so that it had a fulltime chief executive; the two-consul form persisted; Claudius (Augustus, Tiberius, Gaius/Caligula, Claudius) revived the office of Censor for himself; the emperor remained an informal reality, but until Diocletian there was no system for orderly succession.
- There was never any elected legislative body, including during the so-called Roman Republic (contrary to what a lot of nitwits seem to think)
- There was no school system
- There was no uniform system of taxation
- There was no banking system (other than Medici-style private banking, or loansharking)
- There was no postal system
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posted on
07/16/2018 6:39:50 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
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To: palmer
Smallpox has no known non-human reservoir, and over 99% of the human population has been vacc'ed against it -- yet it keeps coming back. Malaria would be a good one to eliminate worldwide, but an effectice vaccine for it is pretty new.
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posted on
07/16/2018 6:44:11 AM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv
Never been a Historian, but made my comment on what a 8th or 9th grade teacher said (I think he said it - it was 50+ years ago...) because it sounded good....
Been watching your posts for a long time and it's obvious you have a love for the topics and are also well-schooled in them - always enjoy hearing from you - even when it's to tell me I may be more than a tiny bit wrong....;-]
Happy FReeping
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posted on
07/17/2018 2:42:05 AM PDT
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trebb
(Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
To: trebb
Heh... thanks for the kind remarks. I generally mean well, that doesn’t always come across in this medium.
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posted on
07/17/2018 3:28:10 AM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv
Yeah - some folks hate to be “corrected”...doesn’t mean we aren’t wrong ..... can’t please everyone so ... keep doing what keeps you happy - might be a song in that with a few word rearrangements.....
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07/17/2018 4:02:20 AM PDT
by
trebb
(Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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