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New Digital Modes Changing Complexion of Bands and Perhaps of Ham Radio
ARRL ^ | 11/2/17

Posted on 11/02/2017 7:27:50 PM PDT by markomalley

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I have to admit that I really have enjoyed JT65 for tracking down some relatively rare DX that I otherwise would have a heck of a time snagging. We're talking <500mW with a short random-wire antenna thrown into some trees. All 50 states and 105 countries on every continent.

And, as far as utility is concerned, if a group of preparation-minded hams could develop a CEOI (communications-electronics operating instruction) for a private net, some very effective communications could be exchanged during a "disaster" at very, very low power with very, very stealthy equipment (low enough power where it would be extraordinarily difficult for fox-chasers to be able to catch them). If you catch my drift.

1 posted on 11/02/2017 7:27:50 PM PDT by markomalley
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develop a CEOI (communications-electronics operating instruction) for a private net
= = =

If you can conceive it, it can (and will) be done.


2 posted on 11/02/2017 7:32:46 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: markomalley

Bookmark


3 posted on 11/02/2017 7:35:24 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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Huh?? I operated 50+ years ago. This sounds like a RTTY operation highly souped up with computer detection and transmission. Hams used keyboards and hf 60 plus years ago. Am I close?

Miss my 20 and 40 cw dx and 160 am. A vertical and 50 watts. Really cooked when I moved up to ssb.


4 posted on 11/02/2017 7:37:36 PM PDT by whistleduck ("....the calm confidence of a Christian with 4 aces".....S.)
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bump because I’m following what you’re saying, I’m just not going to tell anyone.


5 posted on 11/02/2017 7:39:42 PM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: markomalley

What’s it cost to get into that game?


6 posted on 11/02/2017 7:39:50 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Big Red Badger; tbw2; spokeshave; Techster; stickandrudder; fulltlt; mad_as_he$$; Sasparilla; ...
Digital Modes Changing Bands and Perhaps ham radio
Ping
7 posted on 11/02/2017 7:41:47 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: markomalley

bttt


8 posted on 11/02/2017 7:53:48 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: markomalley

Bkmrk.


9 posted on 11/02/2017 7:56:39 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Screw The NFL!!!!!! My family fought for the flag!)
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To: whistleduck

My first RTTY demodulator was a twin cities tube affair.

Home brewed a number of AFSK modulators and demodulators.

My Fleisher TU-170 was an absolute jewel (sorry I ever sold it).

Still have a Robot keyboard. (CW, Badot & ASCI)

Not that active any more, but thinking about fixing that. Still have some fine gear.

I did a bit of homebrew QRP work. Really liked that.


10 posted on 11/02/2017 8:02:41 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: whistleduck

It’s been around for a few years now. Digital mode, software defined radios or SDR’s etc..Most hams nowadays are tied into the Internet one way or another and digital is yet another amateur radio mode.


11 posted on 11/02/2017 8:06:27 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: whistleduck

It’s been around for a few years now. Digital mode, software defined radios or SDR’s etc..Most hams nowadays are tied into the Internet one way or another and digital is yet another amateur radio mode.


12 posted on 11/02/2017 8:06:28 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: markomalley

Dogear page for later.


13 posted on 11/02/2017 8:06:31 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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Just saw this the other day. Comparing FT-8 to Olivia

FT-8 vs. Olivia

And another one :

Olivia Too Slow? Try Contestia

14 posted on 11/02/2017 8:08:46 PM PDT by TheCipher (To my mind Judas Iscariot was nothing but a low, mean, premature Congressman. - Mark Twain)
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I love FT8. It's so much faster to make a contact than the older JT65, and almost as sensitive. I worked New Zealand from Alabama, with -16 dB signal to noise ratio!

I prefer the computer-based digital modes to HF voice; the background noise is terrible, my hearing is not good, I have tinnitus, and I just can't pull stations out of the noise. But Joe Taylor's software WSJT-X sure can.

15 posted on 11/02/2017 8:11:54 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; we got Gorsuch and a bit of MAGA. Likely have a civil war before we get more.)
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To: markomalley

For later.

Thanks.

L


16 posted on 11/02/2017 8:13:48 PM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: whistleduck

The mathematical codes this new software uses for detection weren’t even invented 50 years ago. But yes, like RTTY, it uses FSK, but with 8 levels (FT8) or 65 levels (JT65) per symbol instead of just 2.


17 posted on 11/02/2017 8:14:07 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; we got Gorsuch and a bit of MAGA. Likely have a civil war before we get more.)
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To: miele man

book mark


18 posted on 11/02/2017 8:16:30 PM PDT by miele man
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Got a computer and a somewhat-modern HF rig? Then, it's just the cost of cables. If your HF transceiver has VOX, you can cable up the sound port in your computer to the rig, download the FREE software (WSJT-X), and you're on the air.

You can control your rig's frequency with WSJT-X, but I don't. There's only one center frequency for each mode for each band, so I just stored them in my old Kenwood rig's memories. I can push a button just as good as the PC can.

19 posted on 11/02/2017 8:17:06 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; we got Gorsuch and a bit of MAGA. Likely have a civil war before we get more.)
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To: markomalley

What equipment is required other than an HF rig and an antenna? Software from whom?

Thanks


20 posted on 11/02/2017 8:18:32 PM PDT by miele man
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