Posted on 10/28/2017 1:10:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin
Wow. You remembered that off the top of your head? I am impressed.
I ran it through an online converter.
PS you were off by .3008, about.
“Newton is not a power measure. It’s a force measure”
F orce +
I nertia +
G ravity =
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Newton...yumm
Had to look it up - except for the fact that a little over a loooong period adds up to a lot, it takes a slight modification of mindset to see why this is exciting news. If this engine was working against my little 4 cylinder engine, I wouldn’t notice it and might get 1/100 of a mile less per gallon....
The challenge with this engine isn’t what it can do. The numbers on the engine itself are impressive. A human-rated transport is going to have much higher mass compared to a satellite or unmanned vessel. That level of thrust might be constant, but the thrust-to-weight (TWR) is going to be drastically different from their test beds.
The biggest component to interplanetary travel is not “getting up to speed.” The biggest component is slowing down. Once they get to Mars, they’re either going to have to aerobrake through the thin Martian atmosphere to circularize, or they’re going to have to turn the ship around and thrust retrograde to capture. They’ll just skip past Mars and out into the open solar system if their travel speed is higher than the orbital velocity.
The only ways to land on Mars have been developed in order to cope with the thin atmosphere, but the SpaceX proposal includes some aerobraking, with a propulsive finale. The variety of other approaches that have been used to land unmanned probes is remarkable.
Slowing down for gravitational capture at Mars will have to use chemical propulsion, but getting there in a reasonable timeframe with human passengers is a must, and will indeed require the kind of velocity that chemical propulsion can yield.
The specific impullse of an ion drive is high, and it has a very long "burn time", making it ideally suited for interstellar probes (assuming everyone is up for a very, very long wait), but specific impulse is often trotted out as if it is the only measurement that means anything.
Specific impulse of liquid fueled engines is higher, generally, than solid rocket boosters, but SRBs can put large payloads into high altitude, and probably all the way to orbit, cheaper, and have a demonstrated reusability further lowering cost. The Shuttle couldn't get off the ground without SRBs, and the SLS now under (re)devvelopment is slated to use warmed-over versions of the Shuttle's main engines (liquid, cryo), but won't be able to get off the ground without SRBs -- and those SRBs are merely longer versions of those used on the Shuttle. It would make more sense to ditch the liquid-fueled first stage and just go with four SRBs. That wouldn't put pork in the barrel, however.
Those chemical prop burns are going to require schlepping that fuel across the solar system. Aerobraking should be sufficient to slow for a highly-elliptical orbit with successive loops through the atmosphere until entry, but I agree that some chemical propulsion will be needed. The question in my mind is “how much?”
High ISP is great in a vacuum but means nothing in atmosphere. They’ll probably use Merlins or the new Raptors to leave the Martian surface. I don’t know the ISP on them, but LRBs are usually lower than high ISP/low thrust propulsion like ion drives.
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