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Carrizal’s Defense Won Today
The Aging Rebel ^ | 10/16/2017

Posted on 10/17/2017 5:04:00 AM PDT by Elderberry

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To: BlueDragon

From your link:

“all we’ve heard is an eye witness named Letty Jones, a former cook at Twin Peaks who now suffers from PTSD after hiding in the walk-in cooler during the gunfight. She didn’t see anything other than a dead man on a stretcher who, when she saw his arm fall limp, appeared dead.”

Now compare that to what the Waco Trib reported she testified to!

Get your head out of the sand. L is all propaganda.


21 posted on 10/17/2017 4:48:10 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: BlueDragon

“You cannot and so you will not. “

I can and I did!


22 posted on 10/17/2017 4:48:51 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: BlueDragon

“You cannot and so you will not. “

See below how L lies!

From your admired L: “She didn’t see anything other than a dead man on a stretcher”

From the Waco Trib:

“Jones said she saw two bikers run by the patio window with guns drawn, firing toward bikers in the parking lot.

...
Becoming emotional, Jones described seeing slain bikers, injured ones and a cache of weapons and ammunition lying on the parking lot.”


23 posted on 10/17/2017 4:55:32 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: BlueDragon

Now that you see how L lies, can you give him any credibility? I can not.


24 posted on 10/17/2017 4:56:25 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: BlueDragon

Waco Trib: “At the time, Carrizal was vice president of the Bandidos Dallas chapter but has since been elected president.”

Atta boy, Carrizal! Murder was the last requirement to be satisfied for your move up the ladder!


25 posted on 10/17/2017 5:00:31 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: BlueDragon
Your Mr. L:

hmmmm. Now ask yourself, when did the trial begin?

"I sat in court all week, Mon-Fri. So far, all we’ve heard is an eye witness named Letty Jones, a former cook at Twin Peaks who now suffers from PTSD after hiding in the walk-in cooler during the gunfight. She didn’t see anything other than a dead man on a stretcher who, when she saw his arm fall limp, appeared dead."

26 posted on 10/17/2017 6:35:12 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: BlueDragon

“I can smell it from here...”

Is that your fetish?


27 posted on 10/17/2017 6:36:29 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: TexasGator
Listen Princess, the guy was talking about what he saw and heard, while he was present at the trial.

If what the one cook was recorded to have said differs from a Waco Tribune article had included mean little to nothing in this instance. It's not as if this 'Legendary' fellow was pretending to be supplying full trial transcript. Right about there, you fail, Princess. You fail because you're too stupid --for words-- and about words, and what they all mean.

I had thanked the man because I had copied portions of what he wrote, pasting those into comment, on this forum. It was polite acknowledgement. There's two words there that are as strangers to you, Princess. You say;

In vanity of your own imagination you'd like to think so, but truth is quite different than you're own personal opinion.

You posted series of lame attempts that you claim to have somehow proved that anything specific I'd quoted from the man was a lie.

You failed.

We've all seen how you are, Princess. It is yourself who has no credibility on this forum, in relation to this subject matter.

Projecting onto others what you are guilty of (you have a long list of priors offenses in the distortion/propaganda department) hurts your own case far more than harms others, including now 'Radio Legendary'...

I'd never heard of that guy until coming across links, here on FR. It is obvious he has his own perspective, supplying opinion along with factual information. In this, I trust him a whole lot more than I will ever trust you, Puddles. I've seen you in action, up close and personal. I remember when not too long ago, you couldn't even count to "two" (Waco PD inflicted gunshot wounds) much less all the way to four. I'm still wondering about how many those were wounded, hospitalized, and who did not die were shot by law enforcement.

No, it must be one of yours. The smell was emanating from you. You reek of "it". Go brush your teeth.

28 posted on 10/17/2017 10:37:17 PM PDT by BlueDragon (..and that's the thing do you recognize the bells of truth when you hear them ring)
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To: BlueDragon

One LONGHORN post but you ducked the facts I PRESENTED!


29 posted on 10/18/2017 8:21:18 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: BlueDragon

“. I’m still wondering about how many those were wounded, hospitalized, and who did not die were shot by law enforcement”

How many more would have died if not for LE?

Innocent women and children? Duh. You are sick dude.


30 posted on 10/18/2017 8:26:18 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: TexasGator

According to earliest reports, going by what the Waco PD had released to news media, law enforcement (those in uniforms, anyhow) did not begin shooting until they heard over their radios, one of the officers say "they're shooting at us from the ground!"

There was audio recording released that contained that very thing. I heard it myself, though since it's been more than two years ago, and literally dozens of Waco Tribune articles regarding the incident later, do not have in mind which exact articles that information had been published within.

The police did not open fire to "save women and children".

Whether or not anyone was actually shooting at the police at all, there is still doubt.

It could simply have been a mistaken perception on part of one of the officers that led to one of them saying that. After that, then Katy bar the door, here it comes.

31 posted on 10/18/2017 10:56:36 AM PDT by BlueDragon (..and that's the thing do you recognize the bells of truth when you hear them ring)
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To: BlueDragon

Nice excerpt and twisting of my post. Sick.


32 posted on 10/18/2017 11:09:09 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: TexasGator

Princess, Princess, Princess -- why be so dumb?

I "ducked" no facts (though speaking of which, it is you who reliably changes the subject, or else runs off and hides when facts go against you, so what wtH do you have to talk about here, anyhow?).

As I've already explained to you once---

You quoted from a newspaper article. The writer was speaking of various factoids that he had seen and heard while he was within the courthouse, for which he supplied his own impressions. I'm able to sift the impressions from the facts, and am able to test the facts, to some degree. Why you would single out testimony of this one witness regarding her being traumatized by the event, I suppose can be chalked up to your own desperation to prove witnesses in any way against law enforcement/prosecutorial narratives somehow wrong, thus impeach everything they may have to offer.

Additionally, what was testified to by that one witness within the Carrizal trial could have been a great deal more limited than what had earlier found it's way into newspaper accounts, including the witness herself providing limited scope of answer to a particular question, posed to herself in a particular way...

What the source I had copy/pasted from wrote was clearly not intended to be blow-by-blow court transcript for every single statement that was made by anyone, within the trial. But still, as for what facts may be gleaned even from that source, being as the man was physically present in the courtroom have far greater value than your here efforts to malign any and everyone who calls into question law enforcement, and McLennan County DA's Office version(s) of what had occurred leading up to, and has occurred after time when the last body hit the ground.

33 posted on 10/18/2017 11:30:46 AM PDT by BlueDragon (..and that's the thing do you recognize the bells of truth when you hear them ring)
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To: TexasGator

I twisted nothing, but added other material that you know to be true. Sorry if that craters you're preferred narrative that included appeal to "women and children".

> As for "excerpting" another person's comments, coupled with "twisting" it up, there are more than few here that can testify that is among your own specialties, Princess.

I'm more an untangle-er of tangled up, knotty "things" including some things you've tangled up through selective excerpting that regularly ignores all else that has been said, then replied to, then again that reply answered, etc. In the back and forth you continually dodge and weave AND "excerpt and twist" anything you can lay your hands on, often then adding braying jackass ROTFLMAO noises.

In fact, attempting to have conversation with yourself on this forum, specially in regards to this subject matter is quite maddening for those very reasons, as more than one person here could also attest.

I'm here to help you see the light in these matters, Princess. Imagine all the money you're saving on clinical therapy sessions. You could thank me, you know. That wouldn't cost you anything cash out-of-hand-wise.


34 posted on 10/18/2017 11:49:07 AM PDT by BlueDragon (..and that's the thing do you recognize the bells of truth when you hear them ring)
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To: BlueDragon

“Sorry if that craters you’re preferred narrative that included appeal to “women and children”.”

If it was the preferred narrative it would have been in the first paragraph, dummy.


35 posted on 10/18/2017 2:02:34 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: BlueDragon

” As for “excerpting” another person’s comments, coupled with “twisting” it up, there are more than few here that can testify that is among your own specialties, Princess.”

Well, then post it!


36 posted on 10/18/2017 2:03:14 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: BlueDragon

“I “ducked” no facts “

You ducked the facts that bikers there say the police acted professionally and saved lives.


37 posted on 10/18/2017 2:04:04 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: BlueDragon

“The police did not open fire to “save women and children”. “

LOL! I NEVER said that. Your excerpt and quotes are infantile.


38 posted on 10/18/2017 2:04:49 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: BlueDragon

Question.

If the police were not there, would more have died?


39 posted on 10/18/2017 2:05:39 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: BlueDragon

“Whether or not anyone was actually shooting at the police at all, there is still doubt.”

So what?


40 posted on 10/18/2017 2:38:56 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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