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[SNIP] USS Fitzgerald Crew Fought Flooding For An Hour Before Distress Call Reached Help
USNI News ^ | June 21, 2017 8:28 PM | By: Sam LaGrone June 21, 2017 8:28 PM

Posted on 06/25/2017 7:21:19 PM PDT by TXnMA

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As noted above, the USNI website blocks hot-linking of at least some images. Whereas the images in this article are particularly good, I do recommend going to the website and viewing them.

There are a number of uncommon items in the article, such as a photo of the interior of the Captain's "stateroom", the fact that he had to be rescued from "outside the ship's 'skin'", and discussion of the size of the underwater damage to the USS Fitzgerald.

In addition, this is a Navy publication; not the usual MSM junk...

1 posted on 06/25/2017 7:21:19 PM PDT by TXnMA
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To: TXnMA

Sumbodys got a lot of splainin to do.


2 posted on 06/25/2017 7:24:19 PM PDT by crz
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To: doorgunner69; Travis McGee; rlmorel; ThinkingAllowed; Presbyterian Reporter; Drew68; cynwoody; ...

Heads up for an information-loaded Naval Institute article on the USS Fitzgerald collision...


3 posted on 06/25/2017 7:28:38 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's alias. "Islam": Allah's assassins. "Moderate Muslims": Islam's useful idiots.)
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To: crz

How did the destroyer, with all that fancy equipment, did not detect and avoid that much larger, and slower, ship?


4 posted on 06/25/2017 7:30:26 PM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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To: rlmorel

So far, our analyses come out looking pretty sound...


5 posted on 06/25/2017 7:30:28 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's alias. "Islam": Allah's assassins. "Moderate Muslims": Islam's useful idiots.)
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The one thing that astonishes me — over 200 people on Fitzgerald survived (including several who were awake at the time of the collision). All 20 people from Crystal survived.

And yet no one seems to have any idea what happened. Only just now are people starting to know the time of the collision. Did the US Navy really have absolutely no information about the collision other than what the Japanese Coast Guard told them? (OK, sure the collision knocked out communications for a while — but surely one of the first questions asked once it was restored would be “What happened?”)

People are pouring over the navigation tracks of Crystal, looking at where the damage occurred on both vessels, and making speculations about how they were maneuvering at the time of the crash. In other words, they are using the same clues that would be used if both vessels had sunk with all hands. Where are the witness statements??


7 posted on 06/25/2017 7:32:45 PM PDT by TennesseeProfessor
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To: TXnMA
and it knocked out the radios in BOTH the Seahawks too... tight???

that's pure bullsh!t

8 posted on 06/25/2017 7:35:53 PM PDT by Chode (My job is not to represent the world. My job is to represent the United States of America-#45 DJT)
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To: mfish13

Like I said...


9 posted on 06/25/2017 7:37:43 PM PDT by crz
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To: mfish13
How did the destroyer, with all that fancy equipment, did not detect and avoid that much larger, and slower, ship?

I strongly suspect that they were in a "stealth" mode with no radar or radio emissions.

But, they should have been listening for the active radar on the freighter, if it was turned on. I suspect it was turned off.

OTOH a definitive answer may very well reveal too much information about USN operations, and the public will probably never get one.

10 posted on 06/25/2017 7:38:26 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: TXnMA
Captain's quarters:


11 posted on 06/25/2017 7:38:37 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: TXnMA

“As for the ship, five days after collision active damage control efforts are ongoing to prevent further damage to the hull. The force of Crystal’s impact combined with the flood not only dented but twisted the ship’s hull. Crews are continuing to pump water in and out of the ship to keep Fitzgerald stable.”

If the article is accurate in its description of the level of damage the crew should be considered for a Navy Unit Commendation (NUC) for saving the vessel. This is really massive damage. If the keel has been broken it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that the ship could end up being declared a constructive loss.


12 posted on 06/25/2017 7:38:43 PM PDT by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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To: Chode

Were there any bridge to bridge comms on VHF during this incident?


13 posted on 06/25/2017 7:41:30 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: NRx

there is out there a suggestion that the USS Fitzgerald was subjected to an EMP attack by the container ship. - There was one rumor that...the RUssians did it. That said, there was a recent event, only a couple months ago, where an American ship patrolling in the Black Sea was hit by an EMP-style attack by a Russian jet.

The main contention is that the one hour lag in reporting the collision was due to loss of power from the attack. You decide.


14 posted on 06/25/2017 7:45:41 PM PDT by bioqubit (bioqubit: Educated Men Make Terrible Slaves - Aristotle)
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To: central_va
that i don't know, but there was NO damage to the radios in the helicopters... putting a call out on guard isn't rocket science
15 posted on 06/25/2017 7:48:59 PM PDT by Chode (My job is not to represent the world. My job is to represent the United States of America-#45 DJT)
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To: TXnMA
In addition, this is a Navy publication;

No, it isn't.

Your first clue should be a lack of .mil or .gov address, but there's always Wikipedia. " a private, non-profit (EIN:52-0643040), professional military association"

16 posted on 06/25/2017 7:49:11 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: cynwoody

Lower right: knocked down his “I love me” wall... ‘-)


17 posted on 06/25/2017 7:52:01 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's alias. "Islam": Allah's assassins. "Moderate Muslims": Islam's useful idiots.)
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To: TXnMA

The captain’s state room door has a plaque with all of the former CO’s names on it. Every ship has that. It’s tradition.


18 posted on 06/25/2017 7:53:57 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: PAR35

Thanks for the clarification...


19 posted on 06/25/2017 7:54:31 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's alias. "Islam": Allah's assassins. "Moderate Muslims": Islam's useful idiots.)
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I feel sorry for the sailor who took and released that pic. We know his or her ass is going to be in a sling.

As for who was in charge when this happened. Meh. Nothing will happen to him or her.

20 posted on 06/25/2017 7:57:25 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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