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Judge to Ammon Bundy's lawyer: If he continues to defy...(OREGON STANDOFF TRIAL)
OregonLive ^ | 9/22/2016 | Maxine Bernstein

Posted on 09/23/2016 4:35:59 AM PDT by Nextrush

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To: IYAS9YAS; walkingdead
Boy, I hacked that last sentence.

I've argued in the past that the phrase "or other lawful purposes" includes the Creator-given right to self-defense and the defense of other innocents is most certainly under the cover of "lawful purpose."

Should read: I've argued in the past that the phrase "or other lawful purposes" includes the Creator-given right to self-defense and the defense of other innocents.

41 posted on 09/23/2016 7:58:10 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees! - Kipling)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Certainly breaking into the federal buildings was unlawful, as was carrying firearms in them. I only meant to note that the charges levied sound bad until you understand what federal officer was impeded and where they carried firearms.


42 posted on 09/23/2016 8:37:11 AM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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To: Nextrush

So they were firing weapons on the reserve. So what? At worst its worth a $1000 fine. Its rule breaking not murder.


43 posted on 09/23/2016 8:38:01 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: MichaelCorleone

i agree.
Thank you Nextrush


44 posted on 09/23/2016 9:39:49 AM PDT by Karoo
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To: P-Marlowe
The truth is irrelevant in criminal trials. Juries are kept in the dark so they aren’t informed of the truth. It’s systemic.

Take a look at the new Tuesday CBS show "Bull" it is all about jury scientific selection process that only the rich can afford.

45 posted on 09/23/2016 10:40:52 AM PDT by itsahoot (GOP says, Vote Trump. But if your principles won't let you, Hillary is OK.)
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What is the PURPOSE of a TRIAL???

To legitimize the government position nothing more.

46 posted on 09/23/2016 10:43:25 AM PDT by itsahoot (GOP says, Vote Trump. But if your principles won't let you, Hillary is OK.)
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To: Nextrush

This is going to end up like Weaver and Waco.

The defendants will probably be found not guilty of the major charges...but then sentenced to LONG terms on lesser charges.

Then, in the following civil trials, the government will pay millions for its own bad judgment and out of control decisions that led to this travesty all around.

One day...they are going to push too far.


47 posted on 09/23/2016 3:01:21 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Semper Fidelis - Molon Labe - Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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