Posted on 04/22/2016 2:32:15 PM PDT by ameribbean expat
Wasted because of human error is very different from human diversion. The guys are young and between us and Putin. I laughed at that video but not this one...
FOX NEWS EXCLUSIVE: The US Marines are at their BREAKING POINT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8_5IxYbgQ0
From the video, we can clearly see that these were C-130s.
Also, from the green strip and wording on its tail, the C-17 in the picture is from McChord. They just used a file picture when they wrote this story. Whoever wrote it knew very little about mobility aircraft or the military.
C-130
C-17
Actually, it is both.
When those aircraft loads, including rolling stock (HUMVEEs) were rigged and loaded, there were would have been Air Force personnel working with the Army. However, the primary responsiblity for accomplishing the rigging of the Army equipment (in this case in Germany) would have probably have been the U.S. Army 5th Quartermaster Detachment based in Kaiserslautern. The 173d Airborne is based out of Italy, and they would have had representatives during the rigging as well. And as I said, I believe the aircraft were probably C-130s from the 37th Airlift Squadron our of Ramstein, Germany.
Still true. The rigging was accomplished with Army and AF personnel, and the loadmasters have to give it the final go ahead as you say. They are the ones whose live are on the line if the weight and balance is off, which could cause catastrophe on takeoff. Or, if the load does not properly exit the aircraft or you get a hung chute, you could have a catastrophe.
I remember the Heavy Brigade airdrop exercises we did in the late 1990s using C-5s - THAT was interesting.
C-5s and C-17s can drop M551 Sheridan tanks.
We had a lot of damaged vehicles over North Carolina farmland during that one, just like this incident.
Hanger Queen: Aircraft, or any major piece of equipment that’s always breaking down, spending more time in the shop than in the field.
Did you watch the video linked at thiis wretched crappy Inquistr site?
The photo I referred to shows two pallet loaded Hums on trailers waiting to be loaded on a C130 with an RS tailcode.
This Incompetent site was torture with endless download fails and reloading.
I blame the Air Force.
As do all grunts. Personally, I thought the people filming were Pathfinders. Set up the DZ,make popcorn.
We used to send a lot of E-6s (squad leaders) to USAF load master course at Howard AFB. Joint training. Just like our company mortar teams used to be qual’d on naval gunfire. We were a long way from home and all we had was each other. Not that we didn’t beat the tar out of each other on liberty...joint readiness does have its limits.
I love "joint" more and more as I get to be an old man. I remember all who supported me and who I served with. I was a spoiled strategic airlift pilot, and it took my guys staying up all night in a freezing cold night to fix the plane to wake me up. After that, I never took anyone's work for granted. Human nature tells us to run for the easiest route. The military won't allow you that. You either lead, and do, or get discarded. It is a serious business.
Again, thank you for your service.
I didn’t see your link on this thread. I must be stupid.
These things happen. That is why we train and exercise. I don't blame the Army guys on the ground at all for laughing - I would have too. This is not driving to your local Sonic and getting a burger. This is tough stuff to accomplish.
During the drop of the 82nd and 101st Airborne on the night before D-Day - LOTS of stuff went wrong. Lots.
But we marched on. That is what professionals do.
Sorry, I meant to say several tons, not several “thousands” of tons. Good gracious.
I only said that because I’m Army and almost everyone else in the family is AF. ;)
Oh no worries brother, I gotcha. You hang in there.
You are absolutely correct about the older you get the more you understand and appreciate what all the different services bring to the table. We were one little airborne battalion, covering all of Latin America. We had to have help from the (godawful) US Navy and USAF. Didn’t appreciate it @ the time, just lived to hit the Green Dragon on a Friday night when we got back into town. But our sandflea operations would have been miserable without them.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JUTQExmJ2qw
Wouldn’t trade it for anything. Best education...ever.
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