Go back to January 2015, Cruz vs Walker.
Cruz supporters worked overtime to build a huge reservoir of ill-will with anyone who supported Walker.
By the time Trump got in, and Walker got out, the Cruz venom machine was in full production, with vicious attacks the norm.
Us Trumpers just finally had enough.
What I find interesting is that for a very long time I thought Cruz’s supporters were mean spirited, and Cruz himself was a nice guy.
Turns out Cruz is venomous too.
It started when Trump trashed the GOPe and demanded to throw out the illegals and build a wall.
And that was well and good.
That later changed to let the “good ones back in”...
But just because someone is burning down your enemies village doesn’t mean he won’t burn down yours too.
The real problem is, many seem to believe that this latest version of Trump’s views are true and will be how he governs. There’s zero evidence of that. He’s argued both sides of virtually every issue he’s ever spoken about at one time or another. And not just a little divergent from each other, polar opposites... He has no core principles that guide him therefore his positions change with the moment. Donald knows how to sell himself. He’s been doing so successfully for decades. People hear what they want to hear and he’s made the “deal” with them. Never mind it was just a sales pitch to get what he wants. And never mind he has no real love or use for the constitution or liberty. He’s a new flavor of big government and his supporters want an authoritarian leader that will get things done AKA make the trains run on time.
Well, I started out excited for Cruz as a second choice after Trump.
Then I was around when the shame mailer thing happened. I thought for sure that he would distance himself from such nonsense, maybe fire someone, but he didn’t. His whole campaign reaction to that story was “meh, that’s just how politics is”. That didn’t seem like it fit with the “truth in politics” image he had been selling.
Then his campaign rushed to tell everyone Carson was out on Iowa caucus day. He apologized the next day, when it was too late for it to matter, of course, but at least he apologized. But then I noticed he blamed CNN and still didn’t fire or punish anyone or really accept any blame for the mistake.
After that, I started to look at his campaign a little more closely, and learned more about his campaign manager, Jeff Roe. Not going to post anything about him here, you can google if interested, but needless to say, I deem him and his Axiom Strategies company a bunch of slimeballs. Around the time I was reading about that guy, I saw another story about Cruz mailing fake checks. That was just attributed to more business as usual.
I don’t live in Texas, so I only knew of Cruz previously for the things he made national attention for, mainly trying to fight for conservative ultimatums before allowing budgets to pass. So initially, I liked him. But after all the stuff I’d read, I started reading about things I had been taking for granted, like his position on immigration, which he says has evolved. During the campaign, he has claimed that he was the reason the Gang of Eight bill didn’t pass. Initially, I believed him. But then I went back and read what he actually said in 2013, which was this:
Ted Cruz, on Gang of Eight Bill, 5/21/13: “They would still be eligible for legal status and indeed, under the terms of the bill, they would be eligible for LPR status as well so that they are out of the shadows. ... I don’t want immigration reform to fail. I want immigration reform to pass.”
So, he was either lying then, or he’s lying now.
Two days after Trump named two justices he’d consider for the Supreme Court at the debate, neither of which were his sister, Ted went in front of voters and said that Trump had only ever said he would nominate his sister, a reference to a joke in an interview from last year that Cruz supporters keep insisting was totally serious. Ted Cruz was standing right next to Trump at that debate, so really, that was the last nail in the coffin of his credibility for me. He will look voters in the eye and play the role of the sincere Christian brother, and lie to people’s faces.
Additional reading (thanks to some Ted supporters, ironically) and I learned that Ted has a “secret army” of paid actors going door to door to canvas for him, thanks to his 100+ million in Super PAC funding. That doesn’t exactly scream “grassroots anti-establishment” to me. If anything, it seems like the same business-as-usual backstabbing-in-waiting that ruined the TEA party.
Ted Cruz seems more to me like the kind of person the Bible warns about, not a voice for truth in politics.
If Cruz had better executive experience, he would have a better campaign manager, who wouldn’t have treated voters like gullible stooges, and I probably would have just assumed he was the stand-up above the board guy I thought he was initially. Instead, I think he’s a pretty vile person at worst, and an extremely poor leader at best.
All of that said, I’ll still vote for him if he gets the nomination.
But I won’t be proud of it, and I won’t tell anybody.
I have always liked Trump. His platform and his message to voters is overwhelmingly positive, and he isn’t part of the RNC/GOPe. I am sick of career politicians, and of all of the guys to come along and mess up their game, Trump is someone I can actually be proud to vote for, warts and all, because he spits in all of their faces. I’m tired of 30 years of promises from the political operatives with nothing to show for it. I’m trying something else this year.
FR has been overrun with populist who could give a craps clip about conservatism. It’s all Jesse Ventura with Rolex’s and helicopters. It’s just like the invasion across the border. ..unapposed. We forgot to build the wall of intellect. So here they are.
I accused him of being weak on immigration in 2014 based on this article, there was even a separate thread on it back then:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/us/cruz-tries-to-claim-the-middle-ground-on-immigration.html?_r=1&;
I lean Trump but barely-—got a ton of admiration for Cruz.
Why the bashing? All the candidates have their flaws.
Trump or Cruz for me but Reagan they ain’t. Combine them into one and maybe becomes a hint of the Gipper.
You can't run as a pure evangelical Constitutional genius and at the same time be that galactically "careless" and dishonest.
At that point, the scales fell off and I saw how slippery Cruz was with multiple deceptive "explanations" and excuses.
Every single day has brought new damning evidence to confirm that conclusion.
I didn’t post it at the time, but ever since Ted Cruz entered the presidential race, I’ve been worried about his chances in the general election.
I love Ted Cruz! I loved his filibuster against Obamacare!
But I know what will happen to ANY Republican outsider that runs in the general election.
They will get the Sarah Palin treatment. Not only from the MSM this time, but also from the GOPe.
So, of my favorites - Cruz and Trump, I have to ask myself, who will better withstand the pummeling of the MSM and the GOPe?
Think about it.
Obviously, it’s Trump.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3308975/posts?q=1&;page=51#70
“We forgot to build the wall of intellect” Why don’t you just ban us Trump backers, you know you want to.
You can find my post “Heid Cruz Worried Sick”— that’s when it happened to me. I was inundated with Heidi’s donation pleas and started distrusting both of them. I made several calls and sent emails to find out why the emails were coming from Brietbart, but noone returned my contact. I liked Cruz for VP up until then.
I don’t think you need to see any threads or posts. Just run through the past two weeks in your mind. Iowa: Cruz sends out phony “Voter Violation” Warnings to scare the rubes into voting for him. Then on election night, puts out the bogus bulletin that Carson is quitting; Vote for Cruz. Then this week, the PhotoShopped image of Rubio shaking hands with Obama.
When Rubio called him on the crappy, obvious Photoshop job, the Cruz Campaign’s reply was; paraphrase.....O.K., we PhotoShopped that one. But there are lots of actual photos of Rubio shaking hands with Obama, If you don’t like ours, send us one of them and we’ll use it.
That begs the question: If there are so many of them out there, why didn’t the Cruz Campaign use one of them in the first place? Probably because there aren’t many, or any to be had.
I feel bad about this. Cruz was my second choice after Trump. I find no pleasure in seeing Cruz, and/or, his organization self-destruct?
I’m 100% for CRUZ
I’m 100% against TRUMP — will NEVER vote for TRUMP
He has all the bad qualities of Clinton and Obama rolled into one.
Yes, espoused positions are important ....
TRUMP the other night on MSNBC was read a listing of the positions of the socialist Sanders.
Trump thought they were reading his positions!!
But more important for me is their character, their view of life, etc. that will set the way they approach governing.
To all you Trumpers out there, I do feel your pain that motivates you to go with Trump.
But before its too late, please read Vexed by Trumpology by Steve Deace on February 18, 2016 at http://stevedeace.com/news/vexed-by-trumpology/
“When did Free Republic posters turn on Ted Cruz?”
The good ones haven’t.
Cruz, Limbaugh, Levin GOPe Establishment.
I will agree Cruz bringing Beck into the fold was a terrible idea.
After that I did more research, found several times where he stated he would secure the border then have a conversation on what to do with illegals already here. Then he voted for cloture on TPA/Fast Track for Obama. That prompted more research and I found where Ted co-authored WSJ article pushing for TPA and more power for Obama.
Ted Cruz joins the establishment
That did me in. I thought Cruz was Mr. Smith Goes to Washington but he's just another politician working for the establishment. They have no choice actually, they already took the bribe and agreed to the terms.
I haven’t but I’ve gotten used to conservatives abandoning their principles in every election.
For instance, where were the Trump fans when Duncan Hunter ran on virtually the same platform as Trump in 08. They were chasing a superstar just like they are now.
Lets hope my prediction is wrong this time but I wasn’t wrong the last couple of elections.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3385498/posts?page=120#120
To answer your question, I didn’t turn on Cruz. What was annoying is seeing the Cruz supporters swooping in with their bitter bile and unfortunate language going after any who supported someone other than their candidate. Initially, that made it necessary to understand how this man could attract supporters of such caliber. After the confrontations here, and other information which came to light regarding his methods on the campaign trail (which by the way, might not even be legal due to his doubtful eligibility) Being a ‘newbie’ here the intense anger and daggers were rather intimidating. If the line has been crossed, personally -I stand corrected. You asked; I replied.
I agree with you. I feel that there is something funny going on. Someday we may find out -- way too late.
Which of these two do I trust? Would want to have as a fellow member in my assembly? would trust my 20-year-old granddaughter as his campaign assistant? would want him as an advisor in court manners? etc.?
You and others don't have to answer. I have mine.
any Conservative who criticized trump became evil incarnate soon after trump declared. I conclude he has alot of paid trolls that were activated to troll Conservative sites around that time. They don’t argue like Conservatives they argue like libs