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Coulter: The case against Cruz as ‘natural-born citizen’
thye Courier of Montgomery County ^ | , January 17, 2016 10:47 pm | Ann CoulterSyndicated Columnist

Posted on 01/20/2016 6:57:04 AM PST by RC one

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To: impimp
" ..confer citizenship...She overlooks this."

Negative. She correctly points out --->Mostly, the Cruz partisans confuse being born a citizen with being a "natural born citizen." This is constitutional illiteracy.

121 posted on 01/20/2016 11:07:58 AM PST by moehoward
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To: PAR35
-- which is why I said it wasn't dispositive. --

vs

-- That case is quite helpful, if not fully dispositive. --

You can clear it up if you want. I don't care what your level of certainty is, just noticing that those two remarks can be taken as opposing each other.

122 posted on 01/20/2016 11:13:53 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: RC one
Ann Coulter's Dream Team .... in sequence ...




123 posted on 01/20/2016 11:14:41 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: alstewartfan

“Anchor babies are NOT citizens. This is the OPPOSITE of what happened in the Cruz case.”


Correct. Ted may have been born a “CITIZEN”. The anchor baby analogy applies to Rubio since his parents were not citizens at the time of his birth.

As a side note there’s a thread where Ted is interviewed during his senate race where he states that anchor babies are in fact citizens. Something he now say’s should be reversed.


124 posted on 01/20/2016 11:14:54 AM PST by moehoward
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To: alstewartfan

This idea would have ruled ineligible our first eight presidents!

oh please read the Constitution again.


125 posted on 01/20/2016 11:26:19 AM PST by rolling_stone (1984)
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To: Suz in AZ

You could throw the best candidate to the insane birther wolves, but I will not. Cruz should be punished for a possible omission of his AMERICAN mother. Right.


126 posted on 01/20/2016 11:29:24 AM PST by alstewartfan (I woke with the frost and noticed she'd lost the veil that covered her eyes. Al Stewart)
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To: moehoward

Mark Levin educated ME on the issue by citing the writings of the actual man who WROTE that portion of the 14th Amendment. I assume maybe Ted Cruz also was unaware of this proof of intent.


127 posted on 01/20/2016 11:34:25 AM PST by alstewartfan (I woke with the frost and noticed she'd lost the veil that covered her eyes. Al Stewart)
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To: alstewartfan
Would you show where Cruz has ever uttered the words “ I am a natural born citizen”? Sometimes it is ok to be ignorant, but it is a shame to stay that way!
128 posted on 01/20/2016 11:39:46 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Have you ever uttered those words? I haven’t. Why should Ted?


129 posted on 01/20/2016 11:45:22 AM PST by alstewartfan (I woke with the frost and noticed she'd lost the veil that covered her eyes. Al Stewart)
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To: moehoward

Cruz had his citizenship conferred automatically because he was BORN...therefore he is a natural born citizen. This is what any court would say. I don’t care about anybody else’s opinion.

All citizens are either naturalized or natural born. He is the latter.


130 posted on 01/20/2016 12:20:43 PM PST by impimp
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To: alstewartfan

I am NOT claiming I am eligible to hold the office of the president. Why do you think Cruz has an exemption from the Constitution? Natural born is a constitutional requirement to hold the office of president.


131 posted on 01/20/2016 12:31:09 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: impimp

This is not a question of citizenship...The Constitutional requirement to hold the office is to be natural born citizen... Cruz is not natural born... Period... It takes two citizen parents to birth a natural born citizen.

This is not rocket science... Cruz followers have the mind of Esau... Sold his birthright for a bowl of red beans... Then Esau lost his blessing... God did not think much of Esau either.


132 posted on 01/20/2016 12:39:54 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Cboldt

“Not fully dispositive means that it is not dispositive” The two statements are congruent, although the first indicates that it is relevant, while the second is silent on that issue.


133 posted on 01/20/2016 12:44:31 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Just mythoughts

Cruz is, and always has been, an American citizen. What is your problem? There is no Constitutional violation.


134 posted on 01/20/2016 12:45:49 PM PST by alstewartfan (I woke with the frost and noticed she'd lost the veil that covered her eyes. Al Stewart)
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To: PAR35
If the first remark had been "That case is quite helpful, but not fully dispositive", instead of what you typed, "That case is quite helpful, if not fully dispositive," I would not have seen your later remark as out of rig with your initial impression.

It's all good. Like I said, I'm totally indifferent as to your state of mind on the subject.

135 posted on 01/20/2016 12:49:03 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: alstewartfan

The Constitutional requirement is ‘natural born’ citizen... Cruz will never be a natural born citizen... And he knows it... Cruz is the problem, not the Constitution!


136 posted on 01/20/2016 12:50:15 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: impimp

“I don’t care about anybody else’s opinion.”


You’re entitled. Wrong, but entitled.

Regarding Levin, it’s interesting that he believes that anchor babies do not have birthright citizenship, but he claims Rubio is eligible despite his parent’s not being citizens until 4 years after he was born. Odd.


137 posted on 01/20/2016 12:53:49 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Just mythoughts

With all due respect, your point makes absolutely no sense.


138 posted on 01/20/2016 1:15:08 PM PST by alstewartfan (I woke with the frost and noticed she'd lost the veil that covered her eyes. Al Stewart)
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To: Just mythoughts
-- Would you show where Cruz has ever uttered the words " I am a natural born citizen"? --

Not in those words. He's said he is eligible or qualified. He filed papers in response to a ballot access challenge.

In any event, there is no doubt that Petitioners' challenge to Senator Cruz's constitutional eligibility to hold the office of President is baseless: Senator Cruz is unquestionably a "natural born Citizen." Every single reliable authority has confirmed that a "natural born Citizen" is a person who was a citizen at birth -- that is, a person who does not need to go through naturalization proceedings to become a citizen.
See Page 2 of Cruz Response to Petitions : NH Ballot Law Commission November 20, 2015
139 posted on 01/20/2016 1:16:10 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: moehoward

I’ll join the “illiterate” gang with Mark Levin any time. Actually, your parsing of NBC is silly and maddening.
Screw the man who supported Rotten, Shumer, Reid, Pelosi, Weiner and Emmanuel (AFTER 2010!). We aren’t going to descend into the abyss thanks to MY vote.


140 posted on 01/20/2016 1:19:08 PM PST by alstewartfan (I woke with the frost and noticed she'd lost the veil that covered her eyes. Al Stewart)
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