Posted on 12/26/2015 5:57:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv
I think the Newton was confined to operations that could be accomplished in Fig-FORTH.
Now remember everybody, it is impossible for any sailors to have found a 12,000 mile long land mass running from the Arctic to Cape Horn before Columbus.
NO NO NO! We are not allowed to consider that other ancient sailors were able to find tiny islands in the middle of the Pacific!
To me this is the most interesting part of the story. For some reason the ancestry DNA groups are really reluctant to link peoples DNA to Native American tribes saying that the data base is not reliable.
Casino money may have something to do with it.
The exact location of that tower may not be available any longer because of development in the area, and because those who would recall where it was have passed on. Some significant tramping around might locate the footings, but they are likely obscured by foliage, and poison ivy there grows to the size of small trees.
It might be worthwhile to go back and look for more if I had the opportunity.
Then too, the area is one in which the site might be looted by some of the folks who live closest if it was identified, seeking something of value.
Why did someone with the Lewis and Clark expedition report that the Mandans spoke with Welsh words? I read they mostly died of an epidemic. Do any remain to be compared with Welsh DNA?
George Catlin documented that, iirc. Most of the Mandan died of an epidemic, but the tribe continues on the Three Affiliated Tribes reservation in the vicinity of Newtown, ND.
Ever watch this show?
http://www.history.com/shows/america-unearthed/cast/scott-wolter
He had some thought provoking stuff. Primarily concerning ancients discovering America prior, in some cases way prior to Columbus, Vikings.
I've watched some episodes, using the History Channel "unlocked episodes" option via the Roku. I enjoy the show, but he's not too on the ball regarding prior work over some of the things he investigates (those lead crosses in NM were debunked by Barry Fell over 30 years ago, for example). His trip to Isle Royale and the Kewanaw Peninsula to look at the 5000 year old copper workings brought up the Newberry Tablet, which I'd not thought about in years, and led to this topic. I've been reading Gavin Menzies' book about the Minoans for some while now, and he discusses the copper mines as well. Menzies' books (I've read in just two of them) remind me of that old saying, when your only tool is a hammer, all problems begin to look like nails. :')
Given the lack of a writing system (the only pre-Roman inscriptions in Iberia are, in order, Greek, and distantly behind that are some Phoenician, so-called Tartessian, and various Celtic oghams) or surviving inscriptions, I've never seen any real evidence (plenty of chimerical stuff on the web though) that the Basques were in Iberia prior to the Romans.
Population Rh(D) Neg Rh(D) Pos Rh(D) Neg alleles Basque people 21-36%[13] 65% approx 60% Native Americans approx 1% 99% approx 10% America B.C.A fascinating letter I received from a Shoshone Indian who had been traveling in the Basque country of Spain tells of his recognition of Shoshone words over there, including his own name, whose Shoshone meaning proved to match the meaning attached to a similar word by the modern Basques. Unfortunately I mislaid this interesting letter. If the Shoshone scholar who wrote to me should chance to see these words I hope he will forgive me and contact me again. The modern Basque settlers of Idaho may perhaps bring forth a linguist to investigate matters raised in this chapter. [p 173]
by Barry Fell
(1976)
find it in a nearby library
I wholeheartedly agree — and obviously, the ultimate origin doesn’t matter, the “loss” of an artifact shows that the Smithsonian couldn’t, and perhaps can’t, be trusted — that it exists not to preserve a heritage, but to preserve a narrative.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3376955/posts?page=7#7
Whoops, should have had you in the reply box for this one:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3376955/posts?page=33#33
I recall the Copper Mines episode with some major skepticism. My question is, how did they transport the copper/ore back to Europe? Ships through the Great Lakes? What about the Niagaria River/Falls? No Canal circumventing them.
Portage, then reload onto another batch of ships?
Down the Mississippi? Naaaah.
Then there was the Knights Templar episode.....
Fun watching anyway. Thought provoking.
Menzies had a British naval career, and has been through the Soo Locks, but seemed untroubled by that particular problem — and I found that troubling. Obviously it would involve ships to get across the ocean, but as of now there’s no sign of a Precolumbian canal to circumvent either Niagara or the drop from Lake Superior to Lake Huron. Menzies conjured up the river in what is now Chicago flowing w instead of e, into the Mississippi.
If they used the Mississippi , then the Gulf and so on they would have started in the Bronze Age and gotten to Europe in the Iron age.
Copper would have been so yesterday. :^)
FYI:
You Tube Links on original article no longer work - IOW, both videos have been pulled, one gives a message about “copyright” violation:
BBC Documentary YouTube
America Unearthed YouTube
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