Posted on 11/08/2015 4:55:19 PM PST by WhiskeyX
Replace your carbs with GOOD fats (organic, grass fed, if possible butter, cream, meat, etc.) and you will lose your desire for carbs...
My family eats carbs - and I come from an Italian family so there is always pasta...
The low carb diet helps me not only from the biochemistry of it, but also the discipline aspect of it. By restricting the types of foods I can eat, I eat less. At least that's how it works for me.
As you know, the low carb diet works by getting your body into a state of ketosis, and even a "cheat" day will throw it out of that state for days. It's an "all in" diet.
You're not being consistent. You originally said that any diet, where everything is consumed in moderation, will result in metabolic syndrome, obesity, pre-diabetes, and/or Type II diabetes. That's hyperbolic nonsense.
Tell that to the physicians and surgeons whose patients brought the problems to their attention, who researched the root causes, and who treated their patients and themselves successfully to reverse diabetes and metabolic syndrome..
Yeah, obesity and genetics can cause all kinds of physical problems. Just look at the Japanese; they rarely experienced all these afflictions you speak of until the sedentary lifestyle caused them to get fatter, just like here.
It takes a special effort to avoid the consumption of a diet which is not strongly affected by the food pyramid.
People eat what they want. The average American doesn't know anything about the food pyramid. It exists simply to give some folks something to blame.....kind of like the people who blame macronutrients for all sorts of of health problems when the real cause is they eat too much and exercise too little. But accepting more a reasoned response, rather than demonizing something other than a lack of personal responsibility, doesn't sell diet books, or make people like Gary Taubes rich from speaking fees.
Your assumption of a universal high carbohydrate diet for all Japanese is grossly in error and is responsible for you reaching a false conclusion.
Seriously? The Japanese diet has been high in carbohydrates for thousands of years. They were smaller than westerners because of the lack of protein. They have, until fairly recently, also abstained from consuming much fat. And that's really the problem for people preaching the benefits of a low carb diet. The history of the Asian diet, particularly Japan, doesn't support your fad du jour. But hey, a journalist like Taubes, who has absolutely no education or training in any life science, should be allowed to get rich from pseudo science like all the other charlatans.
Physics 101 and basic human nutrition would prevent all this nonsense, but the we don't teach them any longer.
Wut? Our carbs are different than their carbs? Right.
Only enriched flour contains carbohydrates? The Roman army conquered the known world marching on bread. Farm families in this country throughout history have consumed huge quantities of carbohydrates -- much of it from processed flour -- yet obesity, and the many afflictions that result from obesity, was almost non-existent.
HUH...??? NO....”only enriched flour contains carbohydrates?”....NO.
So we should just assume that they all suffered from metabolic syndrome and diabetes because their diet was high in carbs?
The suggestion that we eat more carbs today than we did in the past, and that we're ruining our health because of it, is not borne out by the increasing lifespan of people throughout the world. Two or three generations ago obesity was almost non-existent. Our genetics haven't changed since then, but we are certainly a lot fatter today. Combine a sedentary lifestyle with cheaper and more abundant food, and you have your answer. The rest simply exists to provide excuses and enrich the people who would take advantage of those that don't know any better.
I've been trying to really limit wheat-based carbs. When I have a lapse, I can tell it immediately. Belly bloat the next day.
Rice is a little better, but the real deal is achieved when you eliminate all "seeds of grasses." Wheat, rice, corn primarily.
Potatoes aren't the worst, but I've switched to sweet potatoes mainly. Also beans are good.
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Are you diabetic?
I cut my carbs to ~75 grams/day out of necessity about 3 years ago. Significant weight and health benefits. But, I’ve learned that it’s still possible to put on the extra pounds without carbs. I need to work on the late night calories...
I've cooked for some with diabetes, my now deceased father for one.
Folks can eat what I'm cooking or move on down the road. A lot of the 'so called' solutions to diabetes and cancer are the same for these heros of the internet. I don't buy any medical information or consumables over the internet.
That's my touchpoint. If I can't buy in person then I'm not interested. You might be surprised at how many don't want to sell in person.
/johnny
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I eat food that tastes good and don’t think much about anything else, just that I have enough fuel to keep me going. Though I like most healthy food even spinach and tuna (about the only thing I don’t like are carrots and raw fish stuff) I will eat what’s handy and available. Pizza with veggies fulfills all food groups so why not? I know that if I start eating “healthy” all the time it will drive me crazy because of too much effort. I have the all or nothing approach to many things in life and that’s to my detriment at times.
My husband has to always have soda and white bread in the house. I think the soda is what keeps my belly bloated but when it’s in the fridge I can’t seem to resist it:( When I was a smoker I was thin and hardly ever craved sweets. Once I quit and started chewing nicotine gum (has sugar to make taste good) I start to crave sweet drinks as well. Think I’m now addicted to it (sugar) because I’m always popping a piece in my mouth.
I hear ya regarding Internet voodoo, but T2 diabetes for many is a basic problem that boils down to limiting net carbs. No doubt you know this given your father’s situation.
Whether in the average supermarket or restaurant, it’s not about what I’d like to eat, but what I can eat. And the choices are usually less than 20% of what’s available. It sucked at first, but I got used to it.
Of course I’m not making demands on what should be prepared. I’m the guest. There are plenty of steak houses and sushi spots to patronize, but otherwise I’ll likely end up ordering grilled salmon with a side of broccoli, hold the spuds.
What’s your cancer?
Feeding me is pretty difficult and I'm lucky to have a chef in the family (me).I also cooked for athletes that were perfectly healthy and wouldn't put up with nasty tasting food. I can do great tasting meals that meet specific requirements if I know in time.
One Thanksgiving I chased a commercial goose around the pond so I could cook it for my dad. It was a good meal, since he would die less than a year out from complications of his diabetes and cancers.
/johnny
That’s a great Thanksgiving you had with your dad. My greatest live catch and eat was a flounder off the coast of New Jersey.
I was about to ask for a good recipe, but then I figured chef’s don’t rely on recipes...
You’re in my prayers. Cancer sucks. I was a kid when it first ingratiated my mom. It’s an unrelenting shadow.
Would you put me on your ping list, please.
We have quit eating after 6pm and actually trying to eat during about 8 hours...most days...seems to help. The other thing is...people are different.
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