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Now Is No Time to Be Voting for President Based on Emotion
National Review ^ | September 15, 2015 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 09/15/2015 12:09:46 PM PDT by Steelfish

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To: Steelfish

Emotion has not a thing to do with it anymore. It is nothing but accountability, period. The establishment has lost it and to the degree they did it to us, it is not recoverable in any way shape or form.


21 posted on 09/15/2015 12:23:55 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: Steelfish

Yes but can he get out of single digits?


22 posted on 09/15/2015 12:24:14 PM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: Steelfish
This time we really mean it. We will do what we promised. Trust us. Nah, too late baby. Sit on it.
23 posted on 09/15/2015 12:26:18 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Steelfish

Here is a summary of every National Review article on the subject of the Republican Party written since 2007:

blah blah blah Romney. blah blah blah Romney. blah blah blah Romney. blah blah blah Bush. blah blah blah Romney. blah blah blah Rove. blah blah blah Romney. blah blah blah Romney. blah blah blah Romney.

Please, National Review... go away.


24 posted on 09/15/2015 12:26:49 PM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/(Cruz or Palin))
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To: Sybeck1

A better question would be does he deserve to be out of single digits? Cruz supports a nearly 10 fold increase in HIB visas, he voted for TPP, and he voted for the Corker bill. Those are 100% facts. Add to that the fact that he’s never accomplished anything since being elected to the US senate from the great state of Texas. He talks and talks and talks but as far as accomplishments....none that I can think of.


25 posted on 09/15/2015 12:27:43 PM PDT by tatown
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To: HarleyLady27
Specific Details:

Secure the border, keep America safe.

How?

Bring back jobs from China and Mexico.

How?

Re-energize America’s entrepreneurial spirit.

How?

Preserve Social Security and Medicare via Strong US growth (not by raising taxes)

How?

Make America energy independent.

How?

Rebuild our Military and world-standing. (not slow them down)

How?

Re-establish trust with our allies.

How?

Undo all America-harming Obama policies/deals.

How?

Require countries we protect to contribute financially instead of taxing America.

How?

Rebuild our roads, bridges,electrical grid, airports.

How?

Support our military personnel ad veterans.

How?

Stop corporations from moving jobs out of America.

How?

Restore national pride and the American dream.

How?

Stop countries from stealing our military technology.

How?

Reduce our crushing national debt.

How?

Prohibit countries from manipulating their currencies so US companies can compete.

How?

You get the point, I hope - the things you listed are slogans and goals, not plans, and certainly not specifics.

26 posted on 09/15/2015 12:28:25 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Steelfish
And if you are not informed, then the most patriotic thing you can do on Election Day is stay home.

Talk to anyone who is under 30 and try to learn what they know about the American political system. Ask them to name the three branches of gov't and see how many can answer you correctly. I don't know what they are teaching in schools these days, but it sure isn't current events or US history. I remember an on-the-street interview (Jay Leno??) in 2012 asking what people thought of Obama's choice of Mitt Romney as his running mate. Most thought Obama made a great choice. People that dumb shouldn't have the right to vote.

27 posted on 09/15/2015 12:29:04 PM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: Steelfish
The "political class," in both Parties, blind as they are, are confounded, because they have trusted in counterfeit ideas instead of those upon which America's "People's" Constitution required them to pledge themselves.

Now, they are flummoxed that "the People" will listen to a lowly "businessman," or "pediatric neurosurgeon," instead of them.

Unlike America's Founders, there is no humility in them. In their eyes, "the People" do not hold the power. They do!

"I am not among those who fear the people. They...are our dependence for continued freedom. And to preserve their independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds...our people...must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they (the British) now do, on oatmeal and potatoes; have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers....This example reads to us the salutary lesson that private fortunes are destroyed by public, as well as by private extravagance. And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from the principle in one instance, becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering. Then begins, indeed, the 'bellum omnium in omnia,' which some philosophers...have mistaken for the natural, instead of the abusive, state of man. And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression." - Thomas Jefferson

We can be thankful that the framers of our Constitution and early justices understood the government-limiting purpose of the Constitution's and wrote volumes explaining its underlying principles and ideas. Those writings are there for us to read--if we care enough to do so!

Excerpted below are the concluding paragraphs from Justice Joseph Story's "Commentaries on the Constitution. . . ."

The final paragraph of that powerful document serves as a cautionary warning for today's attacks on its principles and limitations on government power.

" CHAPTER XLV. CONCLUDING REMARKS.

§ 1903. We have now reviewed all the provisions of the original constitution of the United States, and all the amendments, which have been incorporated into it. And, here, the task originally proposed in these Commentaries is brought to a close. Many reflections naturally crowd upon the mind at such a moment; many grateful recollections of the past; and many anxious thoughts of the future. The past is secure. It is unalterable. The seal of eternity is upon it. The wisdom, which it has displayed, and the blessings, which it has bestowed, cannot be obscured; neither can they be debased by human folly, or human infirmity. The future is that, which may well awaken the most earnest solicitude, both for the virtue and the permanence of our republic. The fate of other republics, their rise, their progress, their decline, and their fall, are written but too legibly on the pages of history, if indeed they were not continually before us in the startling fragments of their ruins. They have perished; and perished by their own hands. Prosperity has enervated them, corruption has debased them, and a venal populace has consummated their destruction. Alternately the prey of military chieftains at home, and of ambitious invaders from abroad, they have been sometimes cheated out of their liberties by servile demagogues; sometimes betrayed into a surrender of them by false patriots; and sometimes they have willingly sold them for a price to the despot, who has bidden highest for his victims. They have disregarded the warning voice of their best statesmen; and have persecuted, and driven from office their truest friends. They have listened to the fawning sycophant, and the base calumniator of the wise and the good. They have reverenced power more in its high abuses and summary movements, than in its calm and constitutional energy, when it dispensed blessings with an unseen, but liberal hand. They have surrendered to faction, what belonged to the country. Patronage and party, the triumph of a leader, and the discontents of a day, have outweighed all solid principles and institutions of government. Such are the melancholy lessons of the past history of republics down to our own.

§ 1904. It is not my design to detain the reader by any elaborate reflections addressed to his judgment, either by way of admonition or of encouragement. But it may not be wholly without use to glance at one or two considerations, upon which our meditations cannot be too frequently indulged.

§ 1905. In the first place, it cannot escape our notice, how exceedingly difficult it is to settle the foundations of any government upon principles, which do not admit of controversy or question. The, very elements, out of which it is to be built, are susceptible of infinite modifications; and theory too often deludes us by the attractive simplicity of its plans, and imagination by the visionary perfection of its speculations. In theory, a government may promise the most perfect harmony of operations in all its various combinations. In practice, the whole machinery may be perpetually retarded, or thrown out of order by accidental mal-adjustments. In theory, a government may seem deficient in unity of design and symmetry of parts; and yet, in practice, it may work with astonishing accuracy and force for the general welfare. Whatever, then, has been found to work well in experience, should be rarely hazarded upon conjectural improvements. Time, and long and steady operation are indispensable to the perfection of all social institutions. To be of any value they must become cemented with the habits, the feelings, and the pursuits of the people. Every change discomposes for a while the whole arrangements of the system. What is safe is not always expedient; what is new is often pregnant with unforeseen evils, and imaginary good.

§ 1906. In the next place, the slightest attention to the history of the national constitution must satisfy every reflecting mind, how many difficulties attended its formation and adoption, from real or imaginary differences of interests, sectional feelings, and local institutions. It is an attempt to create a national sovereignty, and yet to preserve the state sovereignties; though it is impossible to assign definite boundaries in every case to the powers of each. The influence of the disturbing causes, which, more than once in the convention, were on the point of breaking up the Union, have since immeasurably increased in concentration and vigour. The very inequalities of a government, confessedly founded in a compromise, were then felt with a strong sensibility; and every new source of discontent, whether accidental or permanent, has since added increased activity to the painful sense of these inequalities. The North cannot but perceive, that it has yielded to the South a superiority of representatives, already amounting to twenty-five, beyond its due proportion; and the South imagines, that, with all this preponderance in representation, the other parts of the Union enjoy a more perfect protection of their interests, than her own. The West feels her growing power and weight in the Union; and the Atlantic states begin to learn, that the sceptre must one day depart from them. If, under these circumstances, the Union should once be broken up, it is impossible, that a new constitution should ever be formed, embracing the whole Territory. We shall be divided into several nations or confederacies, rivals in power and interest, too proud to brook injury, and too close to make retaliation distant or ineffectual. Our very animosities will, like those of all other kindred nations, become more deadly, because our lineage, laws, and language are the same. Let the history of the Grecian and Italian republics warn us of our dangers. The national constitution is our last, and our only security. United we stand; divided we fall.

§ 1907. If these Commentaries shall but inspire in the rising generation a more ardent love of their country, an unquenchable thirst for liberty, and a profound reverence for the constitution and the Union, then they will have accomplished all, that their author ought to desire. Let the American youth never forget, that they possess a noble inheritance, bought by the toils, and sufferings, and blood of their ancestors; and capable, if wisely improved, and faithfully guarded, of transmitting to their latest posterity all the substantial blessings of life, the peaceful enjoyment of liberty, property, religion, and independence. The structure has been erected by architects of consummate skill and fidelity; its foundations are solid; its compartments are beautiful, as well as useful; its arrangements are full of wisdom and order; and its defences are impregnable from without. It has been reared for immortality, if the work of man may justly aspire to such a title. It may, nevertheless, perish in an hour by the folly, or corruption, or negligence of its only keepers, THE PEOPLE. Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall, when the wise are banished from the public councils, because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded, because they flatter the people, in order to betray them."

- Justice Joseph Story - "Commentaries on the Constitution. . . ."

As we focus on "issues," such as the ones in Post #15, important as they are, we need to focus on the principles underlying our freedom, for the future of our grandchildren and great-grandchildren, and all their posterity depends on a renewal of a spirit of liberty.

28 posted on 09/15/2015 12:29:10 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Steelfish

Sowell is a very logical man but we are not up against logic. We are fighting communism, radicalism, leftism, globalism -and they’ve been winning.


29 posted on 09/15/2015 12:33:18 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Steelfish

But the last two elections we were commanded to vote out of guilt.


30 posted on 09/15/2015 12:33:22 PM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Steelfish

They did it before in 2008 and 2012c why not now?


31 posted on 09/15/2015 12:33:59 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Steelfish
Sowell jumps the shark, jump the shark photo:  6fabcbd4e236968b0704509acefb6d56.gif but can't land on his skiis.
32 posted on 09/15/2015 12:34:27 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Steelfish

Dr. Ben Carson, a sedate moderate with liberal leanings or Ms. Carly Fiorina, the screechy Hillary alternative. Hmmm, such decisions to make....


33 posted on 09/15/2015 12:35:48 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Philippians 2:10)
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To: Steelfish
And So, we now we're hearing of a GOPe Third Party threat. ( Bill Kristol )

Establishment vs Anti-Establishment

Bring It!

34 posted on 09/15/2015 12:35:59 PM PDT by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: Steelfish
Don’t we have a true conservative who is also electable like Ted Cruz?

Cruz was my guy, but he can't gain traction.

I would be pleased with a Trump/Cruz ticket.

As an aside, I don't think Trump is stoppable because he knows how to manipulate the media to get free advertising.

It's has been estimated that Trump has already gotten over $50 million in "earned" media and this race is just getting started. Who can compete with that?

35 posted on 09/15/2015 12:36:48 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Trump: Orange Lives Matter.)
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To: BereanBrain

Silly proletarian. You think you’re informed...

Now go sit in the corner and color while your betters attend to matters which are waaaay beyond your grasp.

(The GOP has really p*ssed me off this week. Like ‘tar and feathers’ p*ssed.)


36 posted on 09/15/2015 12:37:12 PM PDT by Marie (Hey GOP... The vulgarians are at the gate.)
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To: Steelfish
On the subject of "emotion,"

should be pushed, pressed, threatened, and made to understand that votes and pocketbooks will not be forthcoming unless the Party leadership pledges renewed adherence to the principles of America's Constitution.

In 1776 and 1787, a new nation set its course by recognition of Divine Providence, Creator-endowed life, liberty, and rights, and a form of strictly-limited self-government under a written Constitution to protect themselves and their property.

That formula worked for over 200 years to secure freedom for oppressed people from all over the earth who fled the same kind of coercive, top-down rule by imperfect persons in government that is being imposed by both Parties in Washington today!

The arrogant, big government, "we-know-what's-best-for-you" atmosphere in Washington must be stopped if our grandchildren and great-grandchildren are to enjoy anything but rank slavery. It will not be stopped by a leader who is incapable of quickly recalling and articulating the foundation ideas of the Founders' formula.

Promises to do this and that, fast talk, and bashing the opponent are not going to relight the torch of freedom and restart the engine of opportunity and prosperity, nor are they going to inspire youth to dream great dreams and to be passionate about liberty for themselves and their posterity.

American youth need an intellectual giant whose ideas come from behind his eyeballs, not from a teleprompter in front of them. They need an inspirational leader whose passion for liberty is greater than his ego and self-perceived "achievements."

Those "patriot dreams" are not just words in a song. They were lived out by men who lost their fortunes, their families, and their own health and lives--just for us!

"Posterity: you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it." - John Quincy Adams

"The people have almost always expected to be served gratis, and to be paid for the honour of serving them; and their applauses and adorations are bestowed too often on artifices and tricks, on hypocrisy and superstition, on flattery, bribes, and largesses. It is no wonder then that democracies and democratical mixtures are annihilated all over Europe, except on a barren rock, a paltry fen, an inaccessible mountain, or an impenetrable forest. The people of England, to their immortal honour, are hitherto an exception; but, to the humiliation of human nature, they shew very often that they are like other men. The people in America have now the best opportunity, and the greatest trust, in their hands, that Providence ever committed to so small a number, since the transgression of the first pair: if they betray their trust, their guilt will merit even greater punishment than other nations have suffered, and the indignation of heaven. If there is one certain truth to be collected from the history of all ages, it is this: That the people's rights and liberties, and the democratical mixture in a constitution, can never be preserved without a strong executive, or, in other words, without separating the executive power from the legislative. If the executive power, or any considerable part of it, is left in the hands either of an aristocratical or a democratical assembly, it will corrupt the legislature as necessarily as rust corrupts iron, or as arsenic poisons the human body; and when the legislature is corrupted the people are undone." - John Adams, January, 1787

"The foundation of every government," said John Adams, "is some principle or passion in the minds of the people."

37 posted on 09/15/2015 12:38:06 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

And the idea that we re-build all these things and preserve Social Security while lowering the debt is like believing 30 million more can get health care while we all save $2500.


38 posted on 09/15/2015 12:38:15 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Steelfish

Woah! Let me just go ahead and disagree with you on that.

Start by stop giving them stuff and they’ll go home on their own. Give jobs and help to American’s first. Illegals get nothing.

And Trump has most *definitely* come out for defunding PP! Many times.


39 posted on 09/15/2015 12:40:13 PM PDT by Marie (Hey GOP... The vulgarians are at the gate.)
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-"How about the Corker bill, which our leadership basically gave Obama the ability to force the IRAN deal without 50% of the vote?"

Yeah!... We gave these A-HOLES a Senate majority and they BEND OVER to give the Democrats a 'voting majority' of "34" to allow IRAN deal.

... and all the 'E' types who espouse and should about "conservative" principles want us to keep drinking their coolaid????

40 posted on 09/15/2015 12:40:34 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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