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UPDATE: Targeted Texas ref on 'bad call' hit wants to press charges
KMOV.COM ^ | 08 SEPTEMBER 2015 | WTVM SAN ANTONIO

Posted on 09/08/2015 5:07:09 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

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To: dfwgator
Mistake? Mistake? A mistake is 2+2=5. This was crime, period. Don’t tell me these thugs had no idea what they were doing was wrong.

Obviously they didn't think it was wrong at the time cause they did it. It was a mistake to do it. If it was a crime, let the courts decide. I don't remember if they have been arrested or charged yet.

41 posted on 09/08/2015 10:07:17 PM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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To: Texicanus

You have some seriously screwed up thought processes. Do you even re-read the stuff you spout? You don’t sound like anybody who was ever an athlete. More like a gang banger.

I was an athlete and we were held to a very strict code of sportsmanship and conduct. And so were the guys. Nobody ever in a million years would have even thought of trying to rough up any adult much less a referee. We would have been gone and so would a coach. That stuff never ever happened.

Sports programs are designed to lift young people up to be the best they can be not encourage them to have no respect for authority and commit assault and battery on game officials. These two kids need a hard lesson and if the coach was involved he does too.

You need to get your head screwed on straight.


43 posted on 09/08/2015 11:07:13 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only po f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Texicanus

Not being a racist retard like you.

Maybe you should give it a try.


44 posted on 09/09/2015 12:50:53 AM PDT by Eaker (You are really amazing Eaker. - Swordmaker 02/14/15)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
You need to get your head screwed on straight.

WOW, I played high school football and took some hard hits but nothing is screwed up as far as I know. But I'll have to think about that some more.

I do try to re-read the stuff I spout to see of it is readable, especially by the younger generation. Sometimes it includes some rather strong sarcasm or historical references that people don't understand. Sorry, if you cannot discern my thought processes or I do not make myself clear. I am a STEM guy and sometimes its hard to express myself.

You are entirely correct about sportsmanship and conduct and what is supposed to be beneficial by participating in sports. Unfortunately you see things your way and not as others have seen them. Therefore you assume the other side of the issue cannot exist because you did not witness or choose to believe it.

I assure you I am NOT a gang banger. I am a retired IT Consultant. I was a mediocre athlete in a Vince Lombardi generation where "win at any cost" was practiced by most of the higher rated high schools and coaches. We played to win and to never accept defeat. Sometimes we were coached over the line of sportsmanship and conduct, physically and mentally, to accomplish our goals. They called us "animals" back then. It was a badge of honor. Therefore I know something first-hand about "assault and battery" on the field of play. Some of that mentality still exists today, but to a lesser degree.

I am not trying to justify or condone what was done. I just wanted to offer another opinion that these "thugs" might have made a bad decision as many kids in high school do. If they were really thugs I doubt they would want to or be allowed to play in the football program. So my guess is they stupidly speared the referee out of frustration or upon the coaches orders. As severe as it looked, the intention was not criminal, but retribution. The ref got up and finished the game. Back when I played he would have gotten a free ride off the field to the infirmary.

Thank you for your brutal honesty. It's been over a year on FR since anyone questioned my sanity or thought processes this much. I guess I picked the wrong side of the issue tonight as many other FReepers have not so politely disagreed with me over my "retarded" and "dumb" postings. But yours is the best.

45 posted on 09/09/2015 1:16:16 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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To: Eaker

OK, I’ll try harder next time.


46 posted on 09/09/2015 1:25:21 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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To: Texicanus

You defend barbarity and criminality.


47 posted on 09/09/2015 5:10:52 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (The economic collapse is imminent. Buy staple food and OTC meds now, before prices skyrocket.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
You would, too, given that the football players that hit him wore full football gear (full padding and helmet) and the referee didn't. That was a HIGHLY dangerous situation that could have gotten the referee very seriously hurt.
48 posted on 09/09/2015 6:36:53 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
By all means, press charges.
Disgraceful thug behavior needs to be addressed and punishment needs to be a deterrent for other would-be thugs.
49 posted on 09/09/2015 7:17:36 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: T-Bone Texan
You defend barbarity and criminality.

No, I'm trying to keep this in proper perspective. It was a Friday night football game in Texas, not a criminal act of ISIS proportions, but an act of frustration and retribution by a couple of average high school players with Hispanic surnames. (BTW Hispanics are white like the rest of us alleged racists here in Texas. To my knowledge there were no blacks or police involved. I don't think Al and Jesse will be coming down anytime soon to defend the players. So racism is a non-issue for now.)

I take it you must think it was a criminal and barbaric act planned by a couple of feral street thugs or barbarians where the main intent was to to kill or maim the official. I assume you are equating this incident to some act of violence that happens regularly on the streets of urban America. Maybe you think this was a racist act too since the players claim racist remarks were made against them by the referee. That's where we disagree with each other.

Texas HS football has rules about this sort of thing. Since no one was injured, let the UIL investigate and resolve this incident to the satisfaction of the parties concerned, before calling in the police or the DA. They can get involved later if they suspect criminal intent was the motive. This is not the first time the UIL has had to resolve issues like this. They have the power to apply sanctions to players, coaches, referees, and schools if they are deemed necessary. So let them handle it first.

High school football is a violent sport. Anybody on the field during play can expect to get hit if they don't take action to evade or defend themselves. That includes the referees. The referee was hit during play, not between plays. To avoid being hit, the referee must always be aware of where he and the players are during play, otherwise he could be hit - either on purpose or accidentally by a player trying to get to the ball. It is strange that no one had his backside or even shouted "look out" to him. Maybe he wasn't the most popular guy on the field. Anyway, now you can accuse me of encouraging players to rebuke or reject the referee's authority by physical intimidation.

Our Friday night heroes screwed-up and that's all there is to it. They and others should be punished justly for their actions and involvement as a lesson to others. I just don't think this incident is severe enough to warrant prison time as if the players were hardened criminals. It's only an opinion, like yours.

50 posted on 09/09/2015 9:29:49 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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To: Texicanus

Many paragraphs to defend violent criminality.


51 posted on 09/09/2015 9:45:48 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (The economic collapse is imminent. Buy staple food and OTC meds now, before prices skyrocket.)
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To: T-Bone Texan

I explained my opinion, take the time and effort to explain yours.


52 posted on 09/09/2015 9:55:43 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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