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WHY WHY WHY..........Why?
self | 8-8-2015 | Self

Posted on 08/07/2015 10:23:54 PM PDT by Cowman

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To: Big Giant Head

I’ve owned a few Cherokee’s over the years (’85 and a ‘90). The ‘85 had the 2.8L chevy and the engine was junk, the 90 had the inline 6, and the inline 6 was a great engine. You needed to make sure the PCV stayed clear, but overall a good car. One negative with the Cherokee was the spongy brake pedal feel. Could never get rid of it and just had to get used to it.

The Toyota’s have been excellent vehicles. You pay more for them, but they don’t nickle and dime you to death during the service life.


41 posted on 08/08/2015 6:54:16 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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Yeah, I’d prefer a Toyota, just these deals came up. The ‘06 liberty was a light deer strike, I bought for $1500 and put $300 into, blue books for $3300 and runs GREAT. Love the way it drives.

The ‘07 was originally purchased by a lady that ran a mail route, but determined the car to be too nice to take on the route. When she died, her daughter was a substitute carrier, and determined the car to be too nice to go on the route. I bought it to TAKE ON THE ROUTE! Only has 49,000 miles, still a new car.


42 posted on 08/08/2015 7:07:40 AM PDT by Big Giant Head
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To: grey_whiskers

Nah, it was a german engineered engine and needlessly over complex. Dealerships hate the 4.7 and while it was made in the USA, it was all german engineered. The dealership I worked at went through 3 engines out of wrecked trucks before thay found one that worked righr. There are quite a few running flawlessly, so the problem is not the design but the execution. No oversize parts are available.
Reminds me of a Dodge Sprinter service van I had to drive for a year.It would die for no reason at 70-75 and you would have to coast until you got slowed down to 15 MPH before you could restart. Mercedes built it was only serviced at a few Dodge dealerships as the complexity was the issue. They finally fixed it, said that one onboard computer was lying to another.


43 posted on 08/08/2015 9:30:39 AM PDT by Boowhoknew
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the complexity was the issue.

Exactly, There is absolutely no reason for a vehicle to have four o2 sensors.

I had a 88 one ton Dodge van with the small block and got 368k out of it. The biggest problem I had was I had to change the starter solenoid on a regular basis but I kept the tools in the truck and swapped it out in the parking lot at work -- it took about 15-20 minutes

44 posted on 08/08/2015 11:14:27 AM PDT by Cowman (As Jerry Williams used to say --- When comes the revolution....)
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To: Cowman

Because you sin.


45 posted on 08/08/2015 11:15:17 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Cowman
Exactly, There is absolutely no reason for a vehicle to have four o2 sensors.

One of the biggest problems of the Jeeps, and the CELs that come on almost constantly.

Still, I love the Jeeps. Chrysler be damned, Jeeps are ....well, Jeeps.

There is yet a day that I drive that I don't get the "Jeep Wave" from other drivers. I cannot think of another band with this kind of bond among drivers, other than Classic Cars.

46 posted on 08/08/2015 3:56:01 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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Jeep Thread


47 posted on 08/08/2015 4:14:07 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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Still, I love the Jeeps. Chrysler be damned, Jeeps are ....well, Jeeps.

I have had Chrysler products all my life and they have always been extremely durable and long lived until the last 10 years or so. I was running a tire department at a Walmart and you just knew that TPMS was going to be a problem with anything made after 2008. There is so much electronic junk out there with backup cameras, Oil life monitors, Tire pressure monitors, and even self braking and self parking cars that do what someone with even basic automotive knowledge used to do as a matter of course. As a result we have taken the legendary American automobile and turned it into a Cuisinart appliance with no style or appeal. It's no wonder that kids today have no interest in fixing a car up but will spend hours tweeting to the other twits.


If you need a car that parks itself you shouldn't be driving because you don't know how to drive.

48 posted on 08/08/2015 8:59:04 PM PDT by Cowman (As Jerry Williams used to say --- When comes the revolution....)
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To: VTenigma
Two acronyms explain it CAFE and EPA

I wonder what hurts the environment more: a few molecules of NOX and co2 per mile or thousands of broken down vehicles and the energy to produce their replacements?

49 posted on 08/09/2015 8:53:33 AM PDT by Cowman (As Jerry Williams used to say --- When comes the revolution....)
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To: Cowman

A lot, we’ve reached the point of diminishing return a while ago.


50 posted on 08/09/2015 1:48:20 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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