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Aegean Sea: CO2 opalescent pools found at site of volcanic eruption that wiped out Minoan...
International Business Times ^ | 7/17/15 | Hannah Osborne

Posted on 07/18/2015 5:36:15 AM PDT by markomalley

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Full title: Aegean Sea: CO2 opalescent pools found at site of volcanic eruption that wiped out Minoan civilization

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1 posted on 07/18/2015 5:36:15 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Interesting.

I admittedly don’t know much about the Minoan culture, but in reading a blurb, it says there is some disagreement on exactly how they disappeared, because the ash from the eruption was not, for them, similar to a Vesuvius/Pompeii event...it was very low ash.

Are they implying that it might have been an overwhelming amount of CO2 that asphyxiated the entire culture or something?

I may be reading more into it than I should.


2 posted on 07/18/2015 5:49:21 AM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant.Buy into it,)
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Are they implying that it might have been an overwhelming amount of CO2 that asphyxiated the entire culture or something?

That's how I read it as well.

3 posted on 07/18/2015 5:52:47 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

Scientists make interesting discovery about volcanoes and immediately apply it to climate change scam; money pours in as scientists find new way to make a non-problem into a dozy of a catastrophe.


4 posted on 07/18/2015 5:55:20 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: rlmorel
Not far fetched at all.

Lake Nyos, Cameroon Co2 kills 1700 vilagers

5 posted on 07/18/2015 5:55:23 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: markomalley
They is a series...

What???

6 posted on 07/18/2015 5:56:30 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Isn't it funny that Socialists never want to share their own money?)
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To: Smokin' Joe

That was what I was thinking of...when I made the connection. They didn’t explicitly make the link that I could see, but I thought...why mention it?


7 posted on 07/18/2015 6:04:50 AM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant.Buy into it,)
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Consider CO2 is heavier than air, and a significant cloud would follow terrain and be contained by it if the topography was right until dispersed. If a high enough concentration persists in an area for a mere two to four minutes, the population (especially if sleeping) is pretty much done.


8 posted on 07/18/2015 6:08:25 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: rlmorel
Are they implying that it might have been an overwhelming amount of CO2 that asphyxiated the entire culture or something?

If CO2 can accumulate and concentrate in deep pools, and then some geothermal event releases heat that makes that water warm so that it rises to the surface and releases all that CO2 into the atmosphere, it might have adverse effect on anybody nearby.

9 posted on 07/18/2015 6:10:45 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: rlmorel

Maybe I am just being stupid because coffee hasn’t kicked in, but I don’t understand what you mean by ‘low ash’ in this statement. Akrotiri on Santorini (Thera) was covered in some places by 50 meters of ash. However, the residents must have had warning by a series of preceding earthquakes, etc, because as of today, they haven’t uncovered any bodies that got caught in the volcanic deposits.

Now, whether or not the explosion killed off the Minoan civilization on Crete is more debatable, as most of the evidence of destruction inland (scorched buildings, etc.) seems to date a number of years after the volcano. Maybe that is the confusion? Santorini is about 70 km north of Crete, and was wiped out by the volcano. The Minoans on Crete were definitely affected by the blast, but probably not wiped out, but the Minoan culture on Santorini (Thera) definitely was destroyed.


10 posted on 07/18/2015 6:21:55 AM PDT by Rutabega (If you don't want me in your personal affairs, don't stick your hand out for my help.)
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LOL, no, I don’t think it has anything to do with you being stupid or your lack of coffee!

I may have misread the Wikipedia entry which spoke of the Minoan segment living on Crete, which was over 100km from the eruption and didn’t get much.

From what I can tell, the Minoans on Crete were like an outpost or Minoan colony, where the ones that got entombed on Santorini were the main body?

My knowledge of history during those times is spotty at best...I defer to you on this!


11 posted on 07/18/2015 6:34:10 AM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant.Buy into it,)
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According to Wiki, it was more complicated than that. Pumice buried most of what was left on Thera. Not enough ash descended on Crete, but with such a cataclysmic explosion of the island, a tsunami probably devastated much of the infrastructure on Crete. Weakened them, and Mycena invaded.

That’s the basic nutshell version.


12 posted on 07/18/2015 6:38:34 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: rlmorel

More likely a huge tsunami. I was just in Santorini and Crete. The volcano exploded in Santorini and you can see still the ravaged cliffs remaining from the explosion and where the peak was is now the Aegean see. It makes the St Helen explosion seem like a firecracker.

Some theorize that that was the site of Atlantis.


13 posted on 07/18/2015 7:10:08 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: PIF

Well, there lies the rub, eh?

Consider that this finding may lead a scientist to a hypothesis that the immediate release of all this sub-water CO2 caused the death by asphyxiation of nearby animal life, including humans. If widespread, this could certainly destroy a locally-based civilization...

Now, think of the money the scientists could make if they:

Further postulate that the immediate release of CO2 into the atmosphere caused polar ice caps to melt and global sea levels rise. And, of course, this rise in sea level would naturally be hardest on non-white, non-European coastal peoples, females and LGBTs?

Attempt to prove that Minoan industry use of fossil fuels (wood, dried cow dung) also contributed to the devastation caused by the CO2 release.

Demand that the present day Greeks be forced to purchase carbon credits from the UN/Algor Corp for this ancient Republican party like devastation.

(Does the world add this to their already devastating debt? Should the Germans be forced to give the Greeks another loan?)

Explain how many species went extinct or were driven to the brink of extinction due to the purposeful release of Minoan fossil fueled carbon.

State that Atlantis’s demise was caused by Minoan C02 but even today Atlantis deniers make up the bulk of the Republican party!


14 posted on 07/18/2015 10:44:26 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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“... but even today Atlantis deniers make up the bulk of the Republican party!”

Closely followed by UFO watchers who frequent Area 51 and Wright-Paterson AFB.


15 posted on 07/18/2015 10:50:15 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: rlmorel

Looks like some others weighed in and explained that Crete was the “big island” and Thera was probably the hub. I am working on a novel set on Thera a few generations before the explosion and have about every book published in English I can find, so I had to jump in there! ;)


16 posted on 07/18/2015 1:46:42 PM PDT by Rutabega (If you don't want me in your personal affairs, don't stick your hand out for my help.)
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To: Rutabega

It is a segment of history I don’t know much about, and is one of the reasons I enjoy FR so much, is that it opens doors for me in literature, entertainment, history and politics that I might not have entered on my own...

Good luck with your work!


17 posted on 07/18/2015 2:47:26 PM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant.Buy into it,)
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Thanks! I’ll send you a message if I ever get it published :)


18 posted on 07/18/2015 3:50:37 PM PDT by Rutabega (If you don't want me in your personal affairs, don't stick your hand out for my help.)
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To: 75thOVI; Abathar; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; ...
Thanks markomalley. The supereruption is a modern invention, and the Minoans were conquered by the Mycenaeans, but still a two-list ping topic.



19 posted on 07/19/2015 1:25:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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Thanks markomalley. The supereruption is a modern invention, and the Minoans were conquered by the Mycenaeans, but still a two-list ping topic.

20 posted on 07/19/2015 1:25:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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