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19 Kids and Counting taken off the air by TLC in wake of revelation that son Josh...
dailymail.uk ^ | 22 May 2015 | Chris Spargo For Dailymail.com

Posted on 05/22/2015 2:22:18 PM PDT by Morgana

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To: Morgana

“Covering up sex abuse, how low can you go?”

In what way did anyone cover this up?

Do you think the Duggars owe it to the American public to advertise that these events occurred? Do you think that all juvenile criminal records should be made public? Do you think the girls’ names should be published along with their photos? Should they be interviewed on live national TV and asked how they feel about what happened to them?


41 posted on 05/22/2015 3:36:30 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: NorthMountain

“A 14 year old boy is old enough to know that you don’t molest 4 year olds.

A 14 year old boy who gets off on 4 year olds is a seriously disturbed individual.”

Dude, you are so preaching to the choir here. I said in an previous thread that the parents needed to be taken to the field and horse whipped, well you know what? So does Josh! In fact if that father would have had any horse sense to him (no pun intended) from the get go that is what he would have done to Josh when he found out what the pervert had done to his sisters or any other girl at age four for that matter!

Or am I just becoming my Grandmother with this horse whipping business?


42 posted on 05/22/2015 3:40:53 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Patriot Babe

If this messy situation had occurred in my family the last thing I would do is agree to present my family on a national television show week after week.

It’s inevitable that this information will eventually get out. I blame the parents.


43 posted on 05/22/2015 3:41:47 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Morgana

“I makes me sick they’d protect a sex offender and the victims are out there still hurting.”

How would you know how the victims are doing? Perhaps it is the Duggar’s obligation to have the victims call you up and let you know they are okay?

Maybe the victims deserve privacy and this publicizing of what happened is only going to hurt them more.

If you were one of the girls this happened to, would you want to be interviewed and put in the news as a victim of incestuous molestation?


44 posted on 05/22/2015 3:42:17 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner

” Do you think that all juvenile criminal records should be made public?”

When it comes to the rape of a 4 year old YES

plus when children are tried as adults in the courts their faces/names are printed in the media.


45 posted on 05/22/2015 3:42:59 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: unlearner

“If you were one of the girls this happened to, ...”

Oh but I was thank you very much, only his name was not Josh Duggar. I promise you, you NEVER get over it. I promise you, you never forget. So can you shut up now? Thank you.


46 posted on 05/22/2015 3:45:23 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: unlearner; morgans
The cover up was "reporting" the incident to a family friend in law enforcement who never actually filed any report - and then himself went away on child porn charges.

The cover up was sending his abusing son to work a construction job away from home until the furor died down.

The cover up was letting the same son move back into the home of his victims.

The cover up was refusing to allow the real police to interview his pervert son until after the statute of limitations ran out.

47 posted on 05/22/2015 3:48:00 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Morgana; morgans

Sorry that last post was addressed to Morgana.


48 posted on 05/22/2015 3:48:42 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: unlearner
They did not report it to authorities and the son continued living in the home. That is covering it up. As did the pedotrooper they had "talk to him" about how it could ruin HIS life.

I AGREE that the victims do not need the publicity. But once it got out it is hard to hide who it happened to. THE PARENTS are to blame for putting their daughters in the situation then AND now.

49 posted on 05/22/2015 3:50:40 PM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: CaptainK

Your right, they should have thought about that before accepting a contract with TLC. However, I can only “assume” they believe this was behind him between Josh and the victims. Yet they forgot there was a police report that could have been made public. I find it odd a woman found a note in a book about the situation. Instead of taking it to the police she sends it to Oprah. Yep, if I learned of a crime I will be taking it over to Oprah - NOT!


50 posted on 05/22/2015 3:52:05 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/bombshell-duggar-police-report-jim-bob-duggar-didn-t-report-son-josh-s-alleged-sex-offenses-for-more-than-a-year-58906

They have police reports also.


51 posted on 05/22/2015 3:52:08 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Morgana; Patriot Babe

“So can you shut up now? Thank you.”

No, I will not. It appears from your posts that you want to punish this man for what some other man or boy or other person did to you.

But I do appreciate your candor about what happened to you. I am sorry that you were hurt and hope you find healing.

I do not know what exactly you went through, but I was impressed by what Patriot Babe shared in post #34. Apparently she has found some healing after going through something similar.


52 posted on 05/22/2015 3:54:13 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: VanDeKoik
I’ve never understood the worshipping of these people by conservatives. They have always given off this creep vibe to me.


I totally agree.

This show is about a dude that turned his wife into a

human baby factory for over two decades. It's freaking weird.

53 posted on 05/22/2015 3:57:33 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: Patriot Babe
The note was written by one of the victims and placed in a book that was loaned by one of the Duggars to a member of the congregation.

That fellow congregant, aware that the church had done nothing and that local law enforcement had done nothing, and that the family was going on Oprah to promote themselves, sent a copy of that note to the show's producers.

The producers killed the interview and reported what they found to law enforcement.

Basically, the woman from the congregation found a way to go over the heads of the local Duggar enablers and seek justice.

We don't know what the note says or what the circumstances of the book borrowing were, but it may have been a "message in a bottle" from a victim to an old lady whom she thought could help her.

54 posted on 05/22/2015 3:57:56 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

Large families aren’t weird in general. This one in particular is.


55 posted on 05/22/2015 3:59:23 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

According to the report, Josh was sent to a Christian counseling center in Little Rock that was recommended by the elders in his Church. The Duggars knew the owner slightly but he was hardly a friend of theirs. Josh worked in construction while he was there and he received counseling from the center. He was there for three months, and there are no reports of him ever offending again.


56 posted on 05/22/2015 4:02:39 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: leapfrog0202
Some argue that the internal logic of the police report implies that the youngest victim was 4 at the time of the attacks. 4.
57 posted on 05/22/2015 4:02:50 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: VanDeKoik

Have you ever considered that the conservatives who worshipped these people, who sceeved out normal people like you and me, are also creeps.


58 posted on 05/22/2015 4:04:12 PM PDT by gusty
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To: wideawake

Large families aren’t weird in general.


Impregnating your poor wife on a yearly basis for over two decades is weird.

59 posted on 05/22/2015 4:04:30 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: leapfrog0202

That appears to be accurate.

My sympathy lies with his sisters and the other family victim. The victims don’t deserve to have the press gleeful dragging them along. It’s further victimization. Mom and Father Duggar couldn’t have possibly expected young victims to give forgiveness. I hope for the victims sake the sickos posting on their social media realize that those girls are VICTIMS and what they are doing harassing them is re-victimizing them and is WRONG and is disgusting.

I’m sure those kids didn’t get a voice on whether to do that show, that was Jim and Michelle. How stupid could they be and now it’s hurt their daughters again.


60 posted on 05/22/2015 4:07:31 PM PDT by machogirl
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