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Battle Over Satanic Coloring Books Prompts School Board to Ban Bibles (Orange County FL)
Fox News Insider ^ | Feb 11 2015, 9:36 am

Posted on 02/12/2015 1:48:06 AM PST by Olog-hai

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To: Olog-hai

In the “political system in the USA, there is no “choosing” of a religion, “institutionally” - namely, as far as the government itself is concerned. The “choosing” is an individual choice per the political system. That’s why you will either have none of them in a governmentally-funded school or all of them.

As far as we’re concerned, as “individuals” who are CHRISTIANS, we know that ALL OTHER RELIGIONS in the world are FALSE RELIGIONS, and so OUTSIDE of the governmental system we’ll continue to PROCLAIM THE GOSPEL MESSAGE OF THE BIBLE and continue to let people know that all other religions in the world are FALSE!

As citizens of the Constitutional Republic of the USA, we’ll continue to respect the political system that has given us this situation.


21 posted on 02/12/2015 9:34:11 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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Banning the Bible is a violation of the Free Exercise Clause. An act like that is outside our political system.


22 posted on 02/12/2015 9:35:24 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Under the U.S. Constitution, the government can’t pick and choose which religion is allowed to have their materials there (i.e., they bring it in and want students to have them).

Since they can’t pick and choose which ones to include for that, and which ones to deny for that ... they have two choices left ... the government allows all of them to do so, thereby not discriminating against ant particular one — OR — they allow NONE of them, again, not discriminating against any particular one.

The government IS ALLOWED to do one of those two things. What the government cannot do is choose which ones stay and which ones cannot stay.

It’s ALL ... or it’s NONE!


23 posted on 02/12/2015 9:45:14 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Olog-hai

I see where your confusion is ... when you say that they can’t ban Bibles. You’re right in that they can’t ban Bibles, while allowing other religious materials. SO ... if they JUST BANNED BIBLES, it would be UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

The thing is, it was written in the article in a slightly different way, which was SENSATIONALISTIC, in that they put down that they “banned Bibles” ... and then they added “and any other religious materials”. That’s simply sensationalistic writing, written to grab your attention, which IT DID ... :-) ...

What they should have said was ... “The board decided that to avoid legal action, it had to ban all religious material from being passed out to students.”

THEN ... it would have been more clear that there was NO DISCRIMINATION against just the Bible.


24 posted on 02/12/2015 10:09:12 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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No, because Satanism is not a religion. LaVeyan Satanism insists its “atheistic” in particular.

You don’t “just ban anything” besides, when it’s religion-related. Unless you want to kill the First Amendment, never mind the rest of the Bill of Rights?


25 posted on 02/12/2015 10:14:21 AM PST by Olog-hai
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Yes, you certainly can ban all religious materials. I don’t know where you get the idea that you can’t. The First Amendment, the Establishment clause doesn’t say that.

As far as Satanism, atheism is a religion. Apart from the government, just from a “religious standpoint of evaluation” it certainly qualifies as a “religion”.

Definition - Religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

And Satan is certainly that. BUT, going to atheism, that (just by itself, and apart from Satanism) that is a religion, too, from the standpoint of the Bible, because it’s worshipping other entities or a “system” as the controlling force, even if that force is “inanimate”.

BUT, apart from the “religious in-house arguments” ... from the political and legal standpoint, it is included (again, legally) as a RELIGION.


26 posted on 02/12/2015 10:29:31 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Olog-hai

Let me go further on this ...

You said ...

You don’t “just ban anything” besides, when it’s religion-related. Unless you want to kill the First Amendment, never mind the rest of the Bill of Rights?

When you say that one just can’t ban anything, you do realize that the place this is happening is not in the public square, not at home, not at church, not in a rented hall for the public, not on TV, not on the radio — but ONLY in government operated and funded facilities ... in other words only “in the government” itself (public schools come under that, not privately-funded schools).

So, what we’re talking about here is not a BANNING for the public in all places the public or in your own facilities (like home or rented halls). There is FREE EXERCISE of your religious rights per the U.S. Constitution, as it should be.

It’s ONLY in government facilities that the government cannot show any favoritism for a particular religion, and pick one to take precedence over another one.

SO, there is BOTH “free exercise” AND the government not picking one over the other (”in the government”).


27 posted on 02/12/2015 11:18:06 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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