Posted on 12/16/2014 2:08:06 PM PST by PROCON
“I like Jesse Ventura”
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Yes, he’s a sweetheart and was an extremely competent governor. What’s not to like. /s
Vince: “Well Jesse, the Junkyard Dog is going to have his hands full tonight with the Giant on Saturday Night’s Main event!” Jesse: “That’s right McMahon, but back when I was a Navy SEAL I would have cleaned Andre’s clock....Hogan’s to!” Vince: “Navy SEAL.....? Those damn steroids have polluted your alleged brain Jesse! No more of ‘em or your fired.....AGAIN!”
It’s as if he wants to paint a bullseye on himself. I hope he gets his wish.
Ah, 20+ posts of drivel, until the truth emerges. Thank you for that. I would like to use an analogy I heard once, about flashlights and cockroaches, but I can't remember exactly Rush said, so I'll let it go. Good job.
Greetings GrootheWanderer:
That’s a somewhat incorrect assumption. Jesse Venture is not a SeAL, he’s only an SeAL organization member. It’s mostly due to an association membership eligibility technicality and has little to do with actually being a Special Operator. I can empathize with Chris Kyle’s position on this.
Jesse Ventura holds a SeAL association membership card simply because he completed BUD/S training. While Jesse’s accomplishment of completing special warfare school is admirable; he chose to remain a storesweeper cruising safely offshore VietNam instead of becoming a Special Operator.
SeAL association eligibility requirements were relatively loosely written as not to exclude their Plank Owner US Navy Special Operators; which inadvertently gave Jesse back door eligibility.
For example, a few of my combat veteran US Coast Guard Port Security Unit Shipmates, Plank Owners, are technically ineligible to wear our coveted transverse seahorses devise. While these Shipmates went to war with me, they did not have the benefit of completing a specific combat warfare school beforehand, which oddly renders them ineligible to wear the devise. (As a Master Chief, I’ve actually outed an ineligible non-combat veteran servicemember who actually attempted to get away with wearing this devise upon their uniform!)
Anyway, Jesse’s brother Jan Janos is a Special Operator, aka SeAL. The SeAL group that outs fake SeALs posted a two-part youtube interview with Jan that fully explains the eligibility technicality of Jesse.
Cheers,
OLA
ICYMI Jesse is not a SeAL, only a card carrying member of the association.
Cheers,
OLA
Jesse is a SEAL according to both Larry Bailey and Naval Special Warfare. Either alone is authoritative. Taken together, there can be no dispute. And as Naval Special Warfare noted at the time, Jesse served in a SEAL reserve unit after he left active duty, so even if one insists that his active duty service does allow him to claim to be a SEAL, that would.
Which would be weird because he actually had the band "America" play that song at his victory celebration when he was elected Governor
Thanks for the reply.
Jesse Ventura was never a Special Operator, he only completed BUD/S course.
To the uninitiated or novice, no one cares about such details. But it’s as much of a difference as advancing into the paygrade of E-7, eligible to join the Chief’s Organization, CPOA; against the process for recognition amongst your peers as a REAL Chief.
Anyway, in every narrative outing SeAL fakes, the fraud is first asked to identify what BUD/S class they attended for verification. Jesse Ventura did successfully complete BUD/S. Just as advancing to E-7 for one day allows someone to join the CPOA; the minimum requirement for joining the SeAL membership organization is completion of BUD/S. Most frauds never get past this point, but they’ll lie about it anyway.
Next, frauds are asked to identify which Special Operations Unit (SeAL Team) team they served with. Jesse was never billeted to Special Operations Unit because of the Sullivan’s clause; siblings can not serve together unless waived by the service members.
Jesse chose exemption because his older sibling Jan was an actively serving Special Operator. Jesse served honorably aboard a US Navy vessel offshore VietNam as Storekeeper, but he was never a Special Operator, aka SeAL.
Cheers,
OLA
As I’ve noted, Naval Special Warfare has said he is entitled to call himself a SEAL. That’s enough for me.
As for he’s only UDT, here’s another SEAL on that argument:
http://sofrep.com/36086/truth-jesse-venturas-navy-seal-status/
Our Travis McGee, a/k/a Matt Bracken says he is not a seal.
What BUD/S class did you graduate from?
Mine was Class 105, in 1979.
IOW, you know not whereof you speak.
Thank you for your opinion. I am sure he is.
And *now*, the **** is getting real.
;-)
So, when did Brandon Webb, another former team guy, who runs some random blog, determine that?
How is Brandon Webb’s opinion worth more than mine?
What SEAL Team was Ventura assigned to, and when? In the early 1970s, when there were UDTs and SEAL Teams, they were NOT the same. Different missions, different risks. As in, combat, vs no combat.
Nothing wrong with being a UDT guy. I was, too, in 1982, after being at ST-2, and just before UDT-21 became ST-4. While I was in Beirut, incidentally.
Tell me again who appointed Brandon Webb as the official overseer of SEAL status? Was he in a SEAL Team during the UDT era? I was. He wasn’t. I’d say I have a better position to speak than he does.
Get back to me with something that says .mil at the end of it, not just some random former frog’s blog.
So, when did Brandon Webb, another former team guy, who runs some random blog, determine that?
How is Brandon Webb’s opinion worth more than mine?
What SEAL Team was Ventura assigned to, and when? In the early 1970s, when there were UDTs and SEAL Teams, they were NOT the same. Different missions, different risks. As in, combat, vs no combat.
Nothing wrong with being a UDT guy. I was, too, in 1982, after being at ST-2, and just before UDT-21 became ST-4. While I was in Beirut, incidentally.
Tell me again who appointed Brandon Webb as the official overseer of SEAL status? Was he in a SEAL Team during the UDT era? I was. He wasn’t. I’d say I have a better position to speak than he does.
Get back to me with something that says .mil at the end of it, not just some random former frog’s blog.
ICYMI, not an opinion, it's a fact. H/T Travis McGee
Cheers,
OLA
Sorry about that. I did not intend to infer or suggest that I had had been a SEAL.I thought that was the ongoing Jesse Ventura thing. I thought that I read this morning that you said that he had never been a SEAL . And I did not know of what I spoke. Again, I am sorry that I gave you the impression that I had been a SEAL .
So we have one man’s opinion going against other men’s opinions... What we have is opinions, not fact. Thank you for playing.
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