Posted on 03/25/2014 7:44:23 AM PDT by Rusty0604
“I don’t disagree with anything you have said but it is what it is.”
Well, then I guess we should just give up then. After all, Obamacare is law, so suck it up. Abortion is settled so move along.
“The more crowded our cities get, the closer we live to each other, the easier it is to annoy others.”
Yet, there is no guarantee that we will not be annoyed. Using that as the baseline for government use of force is nothing more than the creation of a bannana republic. The laws would never be consistent and would continually churn based on someone’s whim on a particular day.
“I can’t play loud music late at night in my own yard, I can’t have more than 3 dogs, I can’t burn trash at my house, I can’t target practice with my gun, I can’t keep my horse at my house, fireworks are a huge no no.”
The main difference between smoking and these activities is that you can avoid smoking on property that you own. If you want to avoid tobacco smoke exposure on property that I own, then you are free to not enter that property. However, noise polution interferes with you on your own property, as do the other activities you mention.
“We used to live in the country and I could do all of those things and no one cared.”
Cities have always existed. In fact, I seem to recall that the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution were both written in cities. I’d also bet that given the poverty of the day, that the population was even more densely compacted.
The tobacco bans on privately owned property are an infringement on the rights of the owner of that property. By empowering the government to take such infringements, you are empowering the government to further infringe on private property rights.
Why do you think that gay rights activists are suing bakers that will not bake them a gay wedding cake? The societal erosion of the respect for private property (a business) is what has empowered these actions. In fact, it is even going further than the theft of property via this removal of property rights, but it is also the use of government force to dictate that individuals must use their labor and talent as the government wishes. In other words, now that we have a society that has destroyed the rights of property owners, it is now acceptable to destroy individual rights to be free from enslavement.
Except of course for the Convenient Conservatives that have been celebrating the smoking bans right here on FR. The results of their celebrating are being celebrated in the gay lobby today.
ditto
Cheer up, you are going to love chewing tobacco....... at least until it is banned for being a nasty habit!
Any time I see an article that tells me a new science discovery “Is Real” I know its BS and brainwashing.
If they have to tell you “No really, its really really real and it could kill you from 20 million miles away if you are even exposed for a second” they are lying.
When it comes to smoking, they are always lying now. Totally made up BS non stop to brainwash the sheep.
Am I plugging it or explaining it?
“I don’t know if it is dangerous or coincidence or what, but I had 2 parents that were smokers and smoked in the house and I always lagged in endurance activities vs my peers growing up. I was strong and pretty athletic, but always ran out of breath.”
I was the same way. My parents didn’t smoke. Found out later I had allergies and when they acted up it made it hard to breath.
Or, maybe it was our neighbors smoke wafting over from next door. You never know.
After all, anecdotal evidence is, well, anecdotal...and all
You are just mad because your mob doesn’t rule, admit it.
I wonder what Rush has to say about this. And I’m still waiting to hear how tobacco smoke is so bad but pot smoke isn’t.
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Since Rush is not available to comment let me do the job as one of the loyal soldiers from his army of free thinkers he’s trained.
Liberalism is a lie. Statism is a prison. These people like Nancy Pelosi don’t deserve to have premium second Hand handrolled cigar smoke blown in their faces. Even though they love Cuba.
It’s all a lie to get grant funding. To get the grant you have to tell them what public-policy will be advanced before you even get the money.
http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2014/02/uc-riverside-scientists-release-results.html?m=1
UC Riverside Scientists Release the Results of their Research on Thirdhand Smoke .........................in their Grant Application
Scientists from the University of California, Riverside have been funded to the tune of more than $400,000 to conduct research on the effects of thirdhand smoke on wound healing in mice. Today, I reveal that they have reported their results to the public. The results appear in which of the following places?
A. A journal article
B. A scientific conference abstract
C. A research monograph
D. The grant application
The Rest of the Story
Indeed, the answer is D. The results of the research are reported in the grant application itself. Once again, these researchers have demonstrated the miraculous ability to determine the results of their proposed research prior to actually conducted the experiments.
And even more magical is their ability to extrapolate their findings from mice directly to humans.
In the grant application, the researchers write: “The overall goal of this study is to identify how THS exposure affects response to injury and healing, so as to inform policy makers of the dangers of this newly recognized threat.”
Interestingly, the proposal does not state: “The overall goal of this study is to identify the effect of THS exposure on healing, so as to inform policy makers whether or not THS exposure is dangerous to humans and the magnitude of such danger if it is present.”
Instead, the proposal has already concluded that there are dangers to humans associated with this newly recognized threat.
Moreover, the researchers have determined that their studies will provide evidence of the hazards of thirdhand smoke exposure. No actual research is necessary for this conclusion. They write: “Our results ... will provide regulatory agencies with the experimental evidence to formulate and enforce policies to reduce exposure of infants, children, adults, elderly and workers in indoor environments where smoking occurs.”
I don’t know about you, but these are the researchers I am going to rely on for predictions before making my prop bets on whether the Jamaican bobsleigh team will crash before finishing its race, whether Canada will win the curling competition, and whether the U.S. or Norway will win more gold medals.
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