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Police Abuse or S.O.P.?
Personal Experience | highnoon

Posted on 02/24/2014 8:30:33 AM PST by highnoon

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To: wildbill

Unfortunately this is WILCO....county motto is “Come on vacation, leave on probation”

Between my woman and myself, 5 of our last 6 stops have been for lighting issues (blinker, LP light, etc).


41 posted on 02/24/2014 9:04:18 AM PST by highnoon (Where do I sign up for all the free stuff??)
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To: highnoon
Between my woman and myself, 5 of our last 6 stops have been for lighting issues (blinker, LP light, etc).

All in Hutto/WILCO and over what time range?

42 posted on 02/24/2014 9:07:19 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: highnoon

Does your local PD use a plate ID scanner ?

http://www.policeone.com/police-products/traffic-enforcement/license-plate-readers/

We have a few departments here in Maine who admit to having them. Others won’t comment.


43 posted on 02/24/2014 9:08:19 AM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: Lazamataz
NEVER SPEAK TO A COP, EVER, ABOUT ANYTHING

Solid advice.

Although I've never been an officer, I come from a family of police officers (father; mother; brother; nephews). Without exception, all of them advised that throughout a traffic stop, especially if asked to consent to a search of your vehicle which you must refuse, do so politely and calmly (despite any inner turmoil). Then be sure to ask -- politely -- if you are free to go and, if not, if you are being detained. Some officers may get "huffy", but maintain your composure, be polite and you'll do just fine almost always.

44 posted on 02/24/2014 9:09:16 AM PST by glennaro
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To: mabarker1

” And incase You missed it
GET A LAWYER!!! “

What are you? One of those anti-police freepers who belong on DU??

(Just getting it in there before some of the Boot Licking Freepers start whining about how unfair you are to the policia )


45 posted on 02/24/2014 9:12:03 AM PST by GraceG
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To: SJSAMPLE

You’re being harassed. Get an attorney, any attorney if money is a problem. Find a local attorney who specializes in Civil Rights / police brutality, etc.. and make an appointment for a free consultation.


46 posted on 02/24/2014 9:14:10 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: highnoon

They are agents of the government..Never consent to anything.


47 posted on 02/24/2014 9:15:31 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: USNBandit

The courts ruled that the “reasonable period” was not for the arrival of the K9 team, but for a standard stop including the ticket. I think it was an appellate court out of Chicago that found that period to average 12-13 minutes. If they happen to get a dog there during that time, fine. But they cannot detain you JUST to wait for the dog unless they have PC.


48 posted on 02/24/2014 9:19:56 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: highnoon

Remember these words:

“Am I being detained, or am I free to go?”

There’s no “grey area” on that answer. They are either detaining you, for which they have to have a warrant or probable cause, or you are free to go. It’s literally that simple.

“I do not consent to any searches.”

This includes DUI tests. Your license might state that a condition of your driving privilege is that you consent to any sobriety tests, but that does not preclude your right to assert your 5th amendment right again self-incrimination. At worst, you’ll have to get a hardship license. At best, they’ll send you on your way.

“I wish to assert my right to remain silent.”

Even if you just rolled down your window to hand the nice officer your license and registration, you have the right to sit there, eyes front, hands at 10 and 2 and be completely silent. You don’t have to answer a single question. If they ask, just tell them that you are asserting your right to remain silent. It’s a right extended to EVERYONE, regardless of their reason for being on the road or anywhere.

The police do not have a right to ask you any questions, and if they want to search your vehicle, you either have to give them your consent or they have to produce a warrant. Even a K9 “hitting” on a scent from your car is not a right to search your car, it’s probable cause which is grounds to get a warrant. That is all.

Consenting to the police NEVER ends well, and you’ve learned that lesson first hand. They are in the business of revenue generation in the form of fines, probation costs, etc. They are NOT in the business of protecting you.


49 posted on 02/24/2014 9:20:01 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: highnoon
I will not get the hell out of here.

I got on the 'wrong side' of a 'pillar of the community', and now am being harassed all the time here in Red Hampshire. My wife and I live in fear 24/7. Sometimes getting the hell out is the only way to save your life.

50 posted on 02/24/2014 9:20:10 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

If they ask you to get out of the vehicle, can you legally refuse?


51 posted on 02/24/2014 9:21:23 AM PST by JohnnyP
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To: highnoon

He asked for permission to bypass legal procedure to search your car for a reason to charge you with something, and you let him? And he did. The police are conditioning us so that if you dare to exercise your civil rights, the hassle will not be worth it. Also to get used to seeing police in military dress with weapons of mass destruction.


52 posted on 02/24/2014 9:22:05 AM PST by Boiling point (Socialism; Ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: highnoon
"5 of our last 6 stops have been for lighting issues (blinker, LP light, etc)."

Nothing good happens in public after dark.

53 posted on 02/24/2014 9:24:22 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: GraceG

Don’t even associate ME with du.

I know The Williamson County LEO all too well.

95% of ALL LEO are NO LONGER worth a pile of Dog Cr^p.


54 posted on 02/24/2014 9:24:28 AM PST by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: SJSAMPLE

The kicker is that there is no legal definition as to what constitutes reasonable.


55 posted on 02/24/2014 9:27:07 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: mabarker1
95% of ALL LEO are NO LONGER worth a pile of Dog Cr^p.

Ah the 95% that gives the other 5% a bad name.

56 posted on 02/24/2014 9:28:01 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: highnoon
I allowed them to search my vehicle because I had nothing to hide

Good thing he found nothing then, ain't it?

You're just lucky he didn't plant something felonious to "find".

At least not this time.

57 posted on 02/24/2014 9:29:26 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: USNBandit

From one of my favorite sites.
The original case was years ago, but cops are still doing it:
http://fourthamendment.com/blog/index.php?blog=1&p=9248&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#more9248


58 posted on 02/24/2014 9:30:35 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: rarestia
Even a K9 “hitting” on a scent from your car is not a right to search your car, it’s probable cause which is grounds to get a warrant.

I had a K9 'hit' on my property last November...I'm SURE the six cats on the property had NOTHING to do with that...the damn mutts are WRONG 55% of the time, and should never be consider 'probable cause' IMHO.

59 posted on 02/24/2014 9:31:05 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: JohnnyP

You must get out of your car if an officer orders you to. You must provide your driver license if requested. As far as a pat down or a search, it’s WOOOOAHHH NELLIE!! These two requests are not legal orders without a warrant and can be refused.


60 posted on 02/24/2014 9:31:10 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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