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Why Did the Husband of One Brain Dead Wife Let His Baby Live and the Other Didn’t?
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Posted on 02/13/2014 5:42:15 PM PST by Morgana

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1 posted on 02/13/2014 5:42:15 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Were both babies healthy, or was one known to have a major birth defect?


2 posted on 02/13/2014 5:44:49 PM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Morgana

We don’t know all the medical details of these cases. Maybe the Munoz baby could not have survived to be born.

However, all the reportage regarding Mr. Munoz was stone cold. There was never the slightest indication that he wanted the baby to live. It was all, “Die, die, die.”

Maybe he was the victim of bad reporting, but he was the one who chose the Death Eater lawyer who said that a “dead fetus” was “how it should be.”


3 posted on 02/13/2014 5:45:28 PM PST by Tax-chick (Oh, what fun.)
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The Munoz wife and baby were without oxygen for a considerable amount of time. The wife was brain dead as the result of no oxygen. Therefore the baby in this case was also without oxygen for the same amount of time that the mother did not have oxygen.

In the other case the wife had brain-damage but she was still breathing, and her heart was still pumping. Therefore the baby had oxygen and did not suffer any brain damage.


4 posted on 02/13/2014 5:59:47 PM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked (The more you know, the more you realize that you don't know.)
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To: Tax-chick

I never watch the perky one Katie Couric’s show, but today she had Mr. Munoz on her show so I decided to watch to hear what he had to say..he was asked about the ultra sound of the baby and how the baby had defects and had fluid in the brain, Katie asked him, what if the ultra sound had come back normal, a perfectly healthy baby, would you have done the same thing, and he said he probably would have. Now that to me is sick, the baby would be born perfectly normal and he would STILL want the baby to die?


5 posted on 02/13/2014 6:00:54 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

So are you saying that the husband said that the ultra sound came back saying the baby *was defective and it *did have fluid on the brain?


6 posted on 02/13/2014 6:06:56 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Tax-chick

this entire scenario remains bizzarre starting with both being licensed paramedics,both allegedly NOT wanting advanced life support BUT no paperwork backing this up and as paramedics they have to know the basic laws for any DNR action.
Then the wife allegedly was found on the floor and he intiates CPR..then there is no further diagnosis beyond an embolism,then we wind up at brain dead.
Yeah,we should blog for the enquirer as the ideas in here range from a paternity “problem” to the direct opposite as him giving her some injectable to get her out of the way or simply a physical argument where she was injured,he walks away but then goes back to find.....and starts CPR.
HIS side of the family backed him up as well—something smells here the same as for Terri Schiavo,another wife found on the floor.


7 posted on 02/13/2014 6:07:16 PM PST by catroina54
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked

When you’re pro-life, you don’t kill a baby because of brain damage.

As I said above, maybe there never was a chance for the Munoz baby to live ... but the dad was death, death, death, for his wife and the baby.


8 posted on 02/13/2014 6:07:58 PM PST by Tax-chick (Oh, what fun.)
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To: Ditter

Yes that is what he said, he said the baby showed “Abnormalities” and had “Fluid in the brain” but he was also asked, what if the baby had been completely normal, no defects, would you still want the plug pulled and he said yes, that the mother specifically said she did not want to be kept alive on machines


9 posted on 02/13/2014 6:09:45 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: GladesGuru
Were both babies healthy, or was one known to have a major birth defect?

irrelevant....both were living human beings....and who gets to draw the line between minor and major????

10 posted on 02/13/2014 6:16:25 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all else)
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To: Morgana

Matthew 24: 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.


11 posted on 02/13/2014 6:21:21 PM PST by RginTN
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To: GladesGuru

Birth defect should have no bearing on case or your opinion. Babies with defects entitled to same love and support and life as perfect babies.


12 posted on 02/13/2014 6:22:20 PM PST by amihow
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13 posted on 02/13/2014 6:24:58 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: Morgana
I've not seen any reports of exactly what happened when the
medical machines that were artificially animating the body of Mrs Munoz were turned off.
Frankly, I don't think it a matter for broad public debate, unless Mrs. Munoz survived the withdrawal of extreme artificial medical life support mechanisms, unassisted except for palliative food and water, for 24 hours.

I'm guessing that wasn't the case here.

14 posted on 02/13/2014 6:29:07 PM PST by sarasmom (Extortion 17. A large number of Navy SEALs died on that mission. Ask why.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda; Ditter

I have a friend who was going to be born with major defects. He has MS from one of the top schools in the country and a lucrative career. I’ve never noticed any defect.


15 posted on 02/13/2014 6:31:25 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Morgana

Munoz wanted the baby dead from the get-go. The description of an ultrasound showing severe damage was far too “pat” to be credible.

Something was going on here—we don’t know what—but there is a reason this guy wanted the baby dead.


16 posted on 02/13/2014 6:39:19 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Have we heard anything about the young girl who was brain dead after throat surgery? Her parents had her moved but I haven’t heard anymore.


17 posted on 02/13/2014 6:39:54 PM PST by Ditter
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To: terycarl

If the child is the responsibility and the property of the parent, as Roman, Jewish and Christian Law held, it would seem the answer would be the parent.


18 posted on 02/13/2014 6:40:17 PM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Gee, an “honest” liberal in TX; most are dishonest to the core.


19 posted on 02/13/2014 6:40:38 PM PST by Theodore R. (Alas: TX Republicans to endorse Cornball and George P! Stay tuned March 4)
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To: RginTN
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold

So, true, fueled by Hollywood, Washington, D.C., and the American people

20 posted on 02/13/2014 6:42:28 PM PST by Theodore R. (Alas: TX Republicans to endorse Cornball and George P! Stay tuned March 4)
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