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If ID Theorists Are Right, How Should We Study Nature?
Evolution News and Views ^ | January 23, 2014 | Denyse O'Leary

Posted on 01/23/2014 9:19:28 AM PST by Heartlander

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To: hosepipe
Like; 2 + 2 = 4...............

Dogma.

281 posted on 02/10/2014 5:54:17 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

Dogma.


No................. Truth(truth)..................
i.e. proven.. tested.. modeled.. built.. displayed.. well argued.. and historical.. even moral or fair...


282 posted on 02/10/2014 6:24:22 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe
No................. Truth(truth)..................

It always is, according to who's telling it.

283 posted on 02/10/2014 6:29:00 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: hosepipe
It is a concept - kinda like "evolution dogma" when the theory is treasured as if a religion.
284 posted on 02/10/2014 7:44:07 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: tacticalogic
I see I butchered my original statement by omitting an important word. It should have read:

Methodology should be an aspect of the philosophy of science and not the philosophy itself.

On your point, I would prefer to see investigators declare up front what they take as axioms or presuppositions in a particular investigation.
285 posted on 02/10/2014 7:53:53 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: tacticalogic

It always is, according to who’s telling it.


Raised eyebrow.... Well DUUUGH!..


286 posted on 02/10/2014 8:31:28 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Alamo-Girl

It is a concept - kinda like “evolution dogma” when the theory is treasured as if a religion.


I don’t get the feeling of “dogma” from evolutionists..
It like a yarn to me... a legend... they tell a story..
Like a Car salesman... weaving a Tale..

They are “selling” something.. some call it preaching..
But not preaching dogma, it’s like; pay me now or pay me later..
Like they have already won the haggle...

Like; What Do I have to Do unload this piece of crap on you TODAY..
They do back up and admit they haven’t the all the facts to make the sale.. then change the subject..
BUT fix a few minor scratches and you’ll have a cherry vehicle to base your life on..
The envy of all your intelligent friends.. (wink wink)

If you are afoote or have a lame dogma, it can appear tempting..
If you have a better dogma then you’re crutches will do just fine...


287 posted on 02/10/2014 8:50:24 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe

Ah, a sales pitch. That’s one to think about!


288 posted on 02/10/2014 9:09:30 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: hosepipe; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
Sort of like, "The YEC industry"...
289 posted on 02/10/2014 9:25:21 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA

Lots of money going around...


290 posted on 02/10/2014 9:50:25 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: hosepipe

“This phrase should be used until it becomes threadbare...”

Spirited: Agreed. However, it remains to be seen if whether most Americans really care about the truth. For many years concerned culture-watchers have been pointing to a lack of moral outrage on the part of most Americans toward the evils that have been over-taking our society for the past 60 years or so.


291 posted on 02/11/2014 3:04:05 AM PST by spirited irish
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To: Alamo-Girl; hosepipe
Ah, a sales pitch. That’s one to think about!

The repetition of a catch phrase until it's "threadbare" can be seen over and over again in commercials.

292 posted on 02/11/2014 5:27:43 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic; hosepipe; TXnMA; betty boop
The repetition of a catch phrase until it's "threadbare" can be seen over and over again in commercials.

Indeed, and in politics. "It's about sex" was repeated so much during the impeachment, people actually believed it.

Likewise, calling an unborn baby a "fetus" eventually gets people to think abortion is not murder. Ditto for calling Jews, Gypsies and such "untermenschen" (under men) in Hitler's Germany.

293 posted on 02/11/2014 7:57:03 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: tacticalogic; Alamo-Girl

The repetition of a catch phrase until it’s “threadbare” can be seen over and over again in commercials.


Like Stalin/Hitler said... “A lie repeated over and over again will be believed.. “ (as if it was the truth)...

Same goes for the “Truth”........ repetition works...
even with the truth challenged.. i.e. the lazy... or apathetic..


294 posted on 02/11/2014 8:44:47 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: spirited irish

Good point.... apathy to truth... signals confusion...
Could be “the People” do indeed have a givernment that matchs THEM... NOW...

How could be any other way when (most) public schools have taught socialism for many decades..
And harsh-ed founding concepts... and the founders..

The current givernment(S) seems to match the voters..
With little outrage over voter fraud and corruption at the highest levels..

i.e. Federal, State and Local.. even school boards..


295 posted on 02/11/2014 8:53:07 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: TXnMA

Sort of like, “The YEC industry”...


If you mean the Religious Industry, I agree...
In some places religion is indeed an Industry...
A business, a club, even a franchise, like Sams Club..

Designer Gods are SOLD like chicken McNuggets...
or force fed like with Islam or other Othodox dogma’s...

Who knows What to believe..?..
Would seem to be hopeless IF it weren’t for a real God..
That answers prayer to a truly seeking heart..

The spiritual mine field is dangerous to the apathic... or lazy..
The precious pearl of truth is available.. for the right price..
All can afford it.... but some are stingy... or greedy..


296 posted on 02/11/2014 9:10:00 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe
Same goes for the “Truth”........ repetition works...

Does indoctrination work if you know you're being indoctrinated?

297 posted on 02/11/2014 10:12:13 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

Does indoctrination work if you know you’re being indoctrinated?


Yup.... they call it Newspapers and Media news departments..
AND........ PBS, NPR and Academia..

been goin’ on for a long time, you need to get out more..


298 posted on 02/11/2014 10:50:23 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe

Indeed.


299 posted on 02/11/2014 11:13:41 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: hosepipe

Not buying this idea of brainwashing people into salvation.


300 posted on 02/11/2014 11:13:43 AM PST by tacticalogic
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