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Ex-CIA Operative: Military Thwarted Obama’s Plans To Nuke/EMP America This Fall!
The Liberty Digest ^ | November 21, 2013 | William Wallace

Posted on 11/21/2013 7:44:52 PM PST by defconw

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To: Southack

“EMP is a Space phenomenon. Not terrestrial. Doesn’t happen with a ground burst or sub-sea burst.”

NEMP, HEMP, NNEMP, devices are designed to be deployed within the atmosphere from the PBL (Planetary Boundary Layer) near the Earth’s surface and upwards into space. HANE or HEMP devices may in some cases be employed within the mid-Stratosphere at altitudes of 20 to 30 miles above ground level (AGL).

Note: the alleged sub-sea detonation of a nuclear weapon was described in the source as a means of denying weapon access so it could not be used for an EMP attack.


361 posted on 11/22/2013 12:15:19 PM PST by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: JediJones

I am no fan of Obama. But if something like this had happened, word would have been leaked. By both sides.


362 posted on 11/22/2013 12:16:04 PM PST by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: DoodleDawg

“And if he did do it?”

Then he was foolish enough to provide the Obama regime with a convenient means of presenting the general officer with a choice between blackmail or resignation. This is similar to Blomberg being forced to resign because he married a prostitute with a criminal record; even though Goring and Hitler were participants in the wedding party.


363 posted on 11/22/2013 12:22:18 PM PST by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: Southack
There was no detail on the delivery methods contemplated. You are chasing a false ghost there. We do have tactical EMP’s....or should have, just makes sense to have something that disrupts command and control.

Most any nuclear device delivers a EMP pulse. The space based type, (I have only seen imaginative drawings) are constructed with a lens or focal magnifier, like a shaped charge that increases the effectiveness and focuses the pulse.

That is not what that rather unusual story was speaking of. In my view, a tactical EMP would be air detonated at specific attitude and altitude delivering a emp pulse over a area determined by the size of the warhead...(just a guess but a 75-100 mile effective area would be achievable with a smallish warhead because the pulse will travel along the grids in the area affected...the delivery could be done by a aircraft or missile. Most likely a aircraft. IMO...Just conjecture here...I have no inside info on current capabilities. Just have a lot of common sense.

Since the 1980s, when the Canadian grid went down because of a solar CME , we in the electrical field have been instituting new electrical codes to deal with magnetic interferences. Not done specifically for EMP's but done for CME's from the sun.

Surge protections have come a long way since the 1989 event.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1989_geomagnetic_storm

We have been mandating surge protections in residences and on the grids in the US for a few years now..

All that said, I made the statement on this thread that I thought the damages inferred by the story were widely exaggerated. I think that is largely due to Hollywood and their oft times ridiculous movies about a EMP Armageddon.

But is there is any truth to the rest of the story and there does seem to be some dots connected here, then a destructive event of that nature is not required...three tactical devices air detonated in the right places would have little radioactivity dangers but would substantially damage the power infrastructures (transformers) in three selected areas to the point that it could take over a year to repair and would require major re locations while that is being done of potentially millions of people.

Your guess is as good as mine, if there is substance to aspects of this story. Frankly I find it interesting and appalling at the same time. I also see enough truth in it to want to know more.

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/home.html

364 posted on 11/22/2013 12:38:15 PM PST by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: butterdezillion

Try googling ‘Sorcha Faal’ and get back to us. You will see why we don’t want that website you linked to posted here.


365 posted on 11/22/2013 12:39:57 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: All

The US ARMY has been in Germany since the end of WW II. The German citizens knew whenever there was to be an unannounced exercise, secret or not. Why? Spies on the inside? no !!

Local Nationals work for and live next to rail yards; they see trucks driving out of installations. etc.

The German citizens knew of the exercises before most of the called-up soldiers and their families did. No Kidding! The German rail employees knew when rail movements of tanks and etc. were scheduled, before the troops knew they were going anywhere.

One if by land and etc. This is not rocket science.


366 posted on 11/22/2013 12:40:06 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: defconw
Have at it FReepers.

Michael Rivero is back!

367 posted on 11/22/2013 12:41:49 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I don't call "911", in my house, I AM '911"....)
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To: Vermont Lt

“But if something like this had happened, word would have been leaked. By both sides.”

No? If you only knew some of the “stuff” that has not been leaked; but then it would be leaked. Wouldn’t it?

If the multiple sources for this story are not leaks, then what are they, bizarre or not?


368 posted on 11/22/2013 12:48:57 PM PST by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: montanajoe
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. . . . . Ever heard of this (born in Iran) woman? Nothing happens without her consent. SHE is the decider, the power behind 0.


369 posted on 11/22/2013 12:50:22 PM PST by LucyT (~ If you're NOT paranoid, you don't know what's going on. ~)
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To: montanajoe; butterdezillion; combat_boots

370 posted on 11/22/2013 12:52:57 PM PST by LucyT (~ If you're NOT paranoid, you don't know what's going on. ~)
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To: Vermont Lt

This was supposed to have occurred on or about August 8th, during the shutdown. There would not be a lot of people involved. Potentially less than a dozen or so and they may not have even known what part they were playing... Plus the officers that were relived/fired. Easy to control that sort of thing...IMO. But eventually people with parts of the story will talk and maybe the entire story will emerge....someday....maybe, but I doubt it..

Perhaps a enterprising individual will investigate it....I guess that remains to be seen...but it sure looks like some event occurred....which I don’t find to be surprising. That is not to say that I buy this entire scenario.

For example, I would wonder why a device would be detonated at sea..Why not deep six it in the trench...for example..why detonate it..why not bring it back or whatever...Might have been the only way.....hard to determine that or if it happened at all..

I dunno...but it’s interesting...


371 posted on 11/22/2013 12:53:01 PM PST by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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372 posted on 11/22/2013 12:54:16 PM PST by LucyT (~ If you're NOT paranoid, you don't know what's going on. ~)
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To: grumpygresh
Lindsey Graham was talking about nukes going off of Charleston during the Syran crisis.

Didn't we already hear about a nuke off the coast there in the past few weeks? Any other time in history, I'd never believe this. Today, it's a MUCH greater possiblity its true than false.

373 posted on 11/22/2013 12:56:49 PM PST by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: butterdezillion
Janet Napolitano said that a “natural disaster” that dwarfs anything this country has ever experienced is coming, and a democrat Congresswoman has said that an EMP-type event is 100% certain.


374 posted on 11/22/2013 1:09:35 PM PST by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: piytar

Autin and Dallas, TX are liberal strongholds.


375 posted on 11/22/2013 1:10:35 PM PST by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: butterdezillion

Lakin got off easy because that was the early days of this admin before the usurper got “really good at killing people.”


376 posted on 11/22/2013 1:25:21 PM PST by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: montanajoe
I can’t get my mind around the fact that an Administration that can’t even launch the website for their signature piece of legislation can do what’s claimed in the article.

It's the punk mentality. Punks are always trying to pull shiite but fail at the details.

377 posted on 11/22/2013 1:27:49 PM PST by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Ditter

Thanx, Ditter. That was just a few of the *lowlights*.

My husband had similar experiences at a different time in different places. He responded by becoming angry right about the time the anti-white heterosexual male campaign began. Pretty much forced him to give up the idea of becoming a teacher and he became self-employed, instead.

I went out to work after responding to you and had a few hours of memories to process. Decided I don’t know how I could ever handle today’s leftist milieu if I had stayed and become a zer0bot. It must suck to be them right now. The mental/emotional gymnastics alone would be dreadful.


378 posted on 11/22/2013 1:29:29 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: dforest

Something that’s been nagging me is the ammunition contract made with a fake company in, iirc, Arkansas. At the time, I chalked it up to that money going into someone’s wallet. Now I’m leaning more to that and many other contracts are a means of covering up what the money actually bought.


379 posted on 11/22/2013 1:45:01 PM PST by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Black Agnes

I’m thinking they won’t put it out that the family will be on vacation until after the incident.


380 posted on 11/22/2013 1:51:52 PM PST by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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