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Chapter 10 (Conclusions) of the Betrayal of Joe Paterno
framingpaterno.com ^ | 7-8-13 | John Ziegler

Posted on 08/04/2013 8:25:08 PM PDT by FlJoePa

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To: MissH; SamAdams76
I don't think SamAdams76 was sucked in, we're just having some good clean fun with him.

SA got labeled a jealous hater; I'm hoping for that, with homophobe bigot thrown in.
61 posted on 08/04/2013 10:53:04 PM PDT by 867V309
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To: Lancey Howard

Thanks Lancey. It’s like I’m in some sort of Bizarro world, where up is down and down is up and I have to reply. I am taking names though, and they will hear from me once the truth comes out.

Yeah - Joe knowingly enabled a pedophile. ANY ONE of these posters - with a gun to their head, if pressed for a yes or no - All of them would say no.

Yet their mouths here run like the Mississippi.


62 posted on 08/04/2013 10:57:08 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: 867V309
Glad you are having good fun in protecting an enabler of a pedophile, who was conclusively proven to have concealed Jerry Sandusky's actions in order to protect a celebrated football program at Penn State.
63 posted on 08/04/2013 10:59:04 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

You are 100% correct and will sleep better tonight if you just let it go. If you look at his in forum posts it is largely a JoPa lovefest. If we all ignore him maybe he will go away. Going to read more interesting threads - have a good night :-)


64 posted on 08/04/2013 10:59:57 PM PDT by MissH
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To: SamAdams76

Protecting? Please read my posts, FRiend. :)


65 posted on 08/04/2013 11:05:36 PM PDT by 867V309
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To: MissH

I guess you’re another one that doesn’t read much. I don’t post opinions I’m not fully informed on. You should take that advice. I don’t think you’re informed on this at all.


66 posted on 08/04/2013 11:06:05 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa
Yeah - Joe knowingly enabled a pedophile. ANY ONE of these posters - with a gun to their head, if pressed for a yes or no - All of them would say no.

See, I think you give some of those trolls way too much credit. Truth and fact has nothing to do with anything. It's all about a bunch of little nobodies tearing down the reputation of somebody who achieved greatness. That's what a lot of little nobodies do. It's irrational, but it's part of the sick side of human nature.

Sandusky didn't get away with decades of homosexual pedophile rape because Joe Paterno and a couple of other university officials looked the other way - - Sandusky got away with homosexual pedophile rape for decades because at least a hundred people, including his family and friends, his Second Mile associates, university donors and benefactors, and reporters looked the other way. Apparently the cops did, too.

But no - - smug, small little people have more fun laying everything at the feet of Joe Paterno.

67 posted on 08/04/2013 11:18:33 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: 867V309

Haha, have fun:-)


68 posted on 08/04/2013 11:19:49 PM PDT by MissH
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To: FlJoePa

What a long, boring sh** filled screed. Guys guilty, evidence says so, accept it.


69 posted on 08/05/2013 3:02:55 AM PDT by calex59
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To: wideawake

Blame the dead guy. The truth is too hard to find. You are pathetic. ... and I am no fan of Paterno.


70 posted on 08/05/2013 3:20:50 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: FlJoePa

Hummbleguna-hat does not own this site. Feel free to ignore and tell that idiot to STFU.


71 posted on 08/05/2013 3:23:39 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: FlJoePa

Interesting reading.


72 posted on 08/05/2013 3:41:35 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: FlJoePa

Thank you for posting this. I have been a Penn State and Joe Paterno fan for almost 50 years. I have bit my lip and not commented on the vile things said about this subject over the last year or so.

Today I had to just say that I fully believe that JoePa has been railroaded by the sick media. I feel better now after reading the article.

So I guess I will be flamed now. Fire away...


73 posted on 08/05/2013 3:57:03 AM PDT by Rodd OB (23 year Simi Valleyer)
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To: VRWC For Truth
I don't blame Paterno only - but unless you've never read anything at all about this story before, it should be obvious that he was one of the key players in this scandal and that he failed miserably in his responsibilities.

His status as a corpse is beside the point - were he still alive, his actions would require the same review.

A pathetic person is someone who would excuse a bad actor from responsibility simply because he is dead.

74 posted on 08/05/2013 4:06:20 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: FlJoePa; Revolting cat!
It’s a freaking book.

Fifty Shades of Gay?

75 posted on 08/05/2013 4:09:51 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Rodd OB
No one's flaming you.

But you understand that just because you like someone's skills as a football coach doesn't mean that he's innocent, right?

I like Martin Scorsese and enjoy his films, but if it turned out that his longtime editor or cinematographer had been taking kids to the studio at night in order to abuse them, and a cameraman saw it and told Scorsese about it and his only response was to go to the studio head and studio security and say: "Hey I heard this might be going on" - and to never talk to the actual cops and to remain on his retired cinematographer's children's charity's board for years after - well, I would think twice aboiut saying: "I've enjoyed his movies for decades! The media must be railroading him!"

That isn't an analytical reaction - it's an emotional one.

76 posted on 08/05/2013 4:15:39 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Lancey Howard
If you read the article above, it tells us that Sandusky wasn't really as bad as they say.

This is more than a "Paterno is a spotless angel" story - its perspective is much darker than just the typical naivete of the generic Paterno booster.

77 posted on 08/05/2013 4:21:24 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake; SamAdams76; SeaHawkFan; 867V309; Bullish; MissH

You do understand that Sandusky was acquitted by the jury of that child molestation charge regarding this boy McQueary saw in the shower.

And you do understand that that night McQueary reported what he saw to a family physician who is a mandated reporter on child abuse and he chose based on what McQueary told him not to report it himself and also advised McQueary not to call the police but to just tell Paterno instead.

And you do understand that neither Paterno nor the other administrators were mandated reporters. None saw the incident and were getting their information from someone who himself never called 911 and whose family physician never advised to either then or after the fact.

And you do understand that Dr Raykovitz, the director of Sandusky’s 2nd Mile charity, was notified of this incident — and he was a mandated reporter, meaning that he was required by law to call and report reasonably suspected child abuse but also that his call would actually be received and investigated.

And you do understand that the boy in the shower, 14 at the time, is now 26 and came forward subsequently and said that he was not molested that night or any other time by Sandusky.

And you do know that Louis Freeh was a fundraiser and sponsor for Sandusky’s 2nd Mile charity during all those years. Are any of you accusing him of being an enabler???

Well, now you do know and have no excuse — so go back to sleep.


78 posted on 08/05/2013 5:57:41 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
So, in other words, if one is not a legally-designated "mandated reporter" one is existentially absolved of the responsibility of a being a decent human being.

Got it.

79 posted on 08/05/2013 6:13:04 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: VRWC For Truth
Feel free to ignore and tell that idiot to STFU.


80 posted on 08/05/2013 6:27:40 AM PDT by humblegunner
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