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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

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To: AllAmericanGirl44

>>> Reading your words sounds much like my own experience. <<<

Funny you would say that ‘cuz I have most often connected with your posts on these threads — either nodding my head in agreement or cheering you on or thinking “well stated!” It’s also encouraging to know that others out there have similar experiences to mine — not a big surprise here on FR! I’m always amazed when I meet people in my age group who act/sound like they are still living in hippiedom. Can’t they see what is happening!? Drives me nuts, but at least I know who they are, what they believe, and can be forewarned (so now everyone knows I’m judgmental as well as racist — ask me if I give a rat’s patootie).

>>> As for George living in fear, now and after the fact, I wonder, how many threats does Mark O’Mara and Don West receive on any given day. <<<

Yeah, I keep thinking “If I feel this way — fearful, angry, hurting — and I’m just an observer, how much more intensely must George and his family be feeling?” I can hardly bear to imagine how his parents must feel. And I really do not want to know how many threats they have all received nor the viciousness of them. It’s evil unmasked.

>>> I feel so out of sorts from this trial today. Between last nights circus and today’s constant side bars, I just feel the wheels of injustice have gone haywire. <<<

I hear ya! I went from laughing hysterically and on a bit of a high after gunshot wound expert testimony yesterday afternoon to utter disgust last night to pensive — almost melancholy, if you will — today. I simply can’t shake the feeling that this trial is some sort of historical marker or milestone. Altho, I do wonder how many other trials like this are happening that we don’t even know about.

Stay strong!


2,281 posted on 07/10/2013 5:54:53 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: Uncle Chip

>>> I just happen to think that those 6 women will do the right thing and it will be a quick acquittal 6-0. <<<

I’m hoping and praying for this, too.


2,282 posted on 07/10/2013 5:57:03 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: Uncle Chip

this same judge was reversed for refusing to give a self defense instruction. (another case)

she was reversed on crump in this case.

she will deny stand your ground to keep with her anti-defense stance.

she , as judge , has the lesser included option. for this judge’s career an aquital is the way to survive the next judicial election.


2,283 posted on 07/10/2013 5:58:34 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Uncle Chip
Yep. O'Mara said on Cooper he argued to get the THC levels allowed so that the defense and not the judge could decide whether to present it to the jury.

But I am shocked that Parks had doubts about the charge being proven. That is stunning.

2,284 posted on 07/10/2013 6:00:21 PM PDT by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: SE Mom

MoM. Explained in his news conference if he’s innocent of murder he’s innocent of manslaughter his action was intentionally done to save his life


2,285 posted on 07/10/2013 6:00:56 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: longtermmemmory

I want to donate money to whoever runs against this judge in the next election.


2,286 posted on 07/10/2013 6:03:42 PM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: fatima
It’s over and look for George’s parent’s in the courtroom.

and his wife Shellie! She was on the state's witness list too--just so they could keep her sequestered and out of the courtroom. The persecutors never intended to call her as a witness.

2,287 posted on 07/10/2013 6:03:47 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
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To: Uncle Chip

I heard him say that too. .I guess we’ll hear about that from the state in the morning. Nelson very cleverly manipulated the timing of final arguments also- letting the jury sleep on the state’s final. She was snide about it.


2,288 posted on 07/10/2013 6:05:03 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: MrEdd

Will not happen.There is a section reserved for family and she will be there.


2,289 posted on 07/10/2013 6:06:59 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: BunnySlippers

Thank you..didn’t know that...


2,290 posted on 07/10/2013 6:09:59 PM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: viaveritasvita

Thank you Viaveritasvita, that was very kind. You described the cycle perfectly from yesterday to now! I was laughing right along with you yesterday. Today, it’s just the unsettled feeling along with that story about the DOJ being involved! I think that bit on information just sealed it for me in some way, that we truly have lost so very much in the last few years. Yes, we all recognize it’s been going on far longer, but the DOJ, really? To know you can’t rely on the law to be impartial, that just hit me to the core.

My prayers will remain, as always. You stay strong too, thanks again.


2,291 posted on 07/10/2013 6:10:02 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: Uncle Chip
I just happen to think that those 6 women will do the right thing and it will be a quick acquittal 6-0.

I sure hope you are right. But I have become rather cynical over the past five years. And especially after watching this trial unfold.

It seems like we are watching a precursor and a preview of how things will be in this country in another decade, if the path we're on is not reversed. God help us all.

2,292 posted on 07/10/2013 6:10:25 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: Uncle Chip; All

Altho I’ve read every post on every trial day thread, I’ve only been peripherally following the discussions on jury instructions. As I understand it...

We’re not absolutely sure whether Murder 2 includes lesser manslaughter charge in FL. Or if Murder 2 and manslaughter are 2 separate charges...? If M2 and manslaughter are 2 separate charges, then argument can be made to not include manslaughter in jury instructions.

Is that about right? I guess we’ll find out soon enough.


2,293 posted on 07/10/2013 6:10:48 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: ladyjane

I want to donate money to whoever runs against this judge in the next election.

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That will basically be five years hence as she was just relected unopposed in 2012 and the term expires in January of 2019.

http://judgepedia.org/index.php/Debra_Steinberg_Nelson


2,294 posted on 07/10/2013 6:14:55 PM PDT by deport
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

>>> ...that we truly have lost so very much in the last few years. Yes, we all recognize it’s been going on far longer, but the DOJ, really? To know you can’t rely on the law to be impartial, that just hit me to the core. <<<

To the core. Yes, that’s it in a nutshell!


2,295 posted on 07/10/2013 6:16:50 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: viaveritasvita

Apparently the prosecution is asking for the inclusion of lesser chargers for the jury to consider. There will be a hearing tomorrow morning.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/10/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-trial-animation/2504917/


2,296 posted on 07/10/2013 6:18:04 PM PDT by deport
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To: JoeProBono

There is so much evil nowadays, with those in government leading the evil parade. We now call these evil orbs......

The orbs seem to be everywhere nowadays..No joke

2,297 posted on 07/10/2013 6:19:27 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: tioga
Well, sure, it makes sense to a conservative.

You mean, to an 'informed conservative' (vs. a misinformed conservative). My next-door neighbor considers herself to be a conservative (and Christian)...yet she has bought into the leftist media's BS and thinks GZ should go to jail for shooting poor Trayvon.

2,298 posted on 07/10/2013 6:19:47 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: NautiNurse

Yea but who’s list were they on.The Father was called by the defense as the last witness.His mother was called by the defense.I don’t know the answer.I know it was unfair the parents were not there.


2,299 posted on 07/10/2013 6:21:26 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Interesting Times
IT!! ltns! Stumbled upon your reply in the ocean of live thread comments.

We're waiting and watching for the 2013 NAACP Convention festivities this weekend. Incredible timing with the GZ trial drawing to a conclusion.

Could be a hot time in metro-Orlando this weekend.

{{{hugs}}}

2,300 posted on 07/10/2013 6:21:44 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
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