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Couple who hosted self-help radio show found dead in joint suicide at Brooklyn home
New York Post ^ | 3:28 PM, June 5, 2013 | Jamie Schram, Lia Eustachewich and Natalie O’Neill

Posted on 06/05/2013 4:50:37 PM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: RobertClark; pabianice
Before you two spat, let me say you're both right.

Merely placing the bag over one's head to suffocate isn't sufficient: The suicidal person has to take sedatives or use an asphyxiating gas.

I'm thinking that this since this was Brooklyn, they either didn't have a car or a garage to commit suicide by running the vehicle's motor in an enclosed space.

21 posted on 06/05/2013 5:30:33 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: Olog-hai

I’m going to start watching the trash bag area in my supermarket. Especially those puncture proof, stretch types. If you pass out does the bag remain airtight? I need Monty Pyton to help me understand.


22 posted on 06/05/2013 5:35:14 PM PDT by keving (We get the government we vote for)
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To: RobertClark

exit bags..news to me...happy not to travel in that social circle


23 posted on 06/05/2013 5:35:47 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: pabianice

I’d agree with that; like intentional drowning in the sink. Ri-i-i-i-ight.


24 posted on 06/05/2013 5:52:10 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: pabianice
Sorry chief. I have known 2 people in the depth of depression who at different times and places smothered themselves with the plastic bags used for wastebaskets in hospitals.
25 posted on 06/05/2013 5:53:09 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: The KG9 Kid
Merely placing the bag over one's head to suffocate isn't sufficient: The suicidal person has to take sedatives or use an asphyxiating gas

This is a false statement, neither sedative nor "asphyxiating gas" is necessary, other than the carbon dioxide that accumulates inside the bag.

26 posted on 06/05/2013 5:56:06 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard
Sure, but you'll almost assuredly rip it off, though. Can't help it. That's why the first guy is right.

Exceptions might be some Buddhist monk who can sit there burning from self-immolation in protest of the Diem regime, I guess. But that's an extraordinary exception.

27 posted on 06/05/2013 5:58:56 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: Olog-hai

I see so many people posting ‘feel good’ rubbish on facebook and it is not consigned to just women. Most of it is just mushy nonsense some of it is damaging psych-babble and yet their lives and marriages seem to be in a downward spiral.

Some of the stuff they post is excusing their bad or selfish behavior. Quoting motivational speakers seems to be somewhat of a new religion. I tried to pick a fight with one of these motivational speakers on some of the things he had said. My statement took him to task and totally disagreed with what he had said. His reply Yes Mel and.... he went on with his self help BS totally ignoring all I had said. I think most of them are con men out to sell a few books.

Mel


28 posted on 06/05/2013 6:01:48 PM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: Olog-hai

Or they could have been in deep depression after reading the inspirational books of Clinton and Obama!!!


29 posted on 06/05/2013 6:08:52 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Truth - the new hate speech!)
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To: t1b8zs
exit bags..news to me...happy not to travel in that social circle

I'm happy not to travel in that social circle as well, but seek knowledge on many issues. Exit bags are quite an innovation for the terminally ill. They are produced, commercially, in Canada and parts of Europe. There was a company in OR that produced them as well, but they were since shut down by legislative action. I can see the arguments for both sides of the issue, I tend to err on the side of neither judging a person's decisions nor dictating morality.

30 posted on 06/05/2013 6:16:28 PM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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To: RetiredTexasVet
Or they could have been in deep depression after reading the inspirational books of Clinton and Obama!!!

In an epic case of irony, this couple hosted a flim-flam monthly radio show called "The Pursuit of Happiness".

31 posted on 06/05/2013 6:19:09 PM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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To: Olog-hai

I guess they didn’t help themselves effectively enough.


32 posted on 06/05/2013 6:29:37 PM PDT by Zeta Beam
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To: Olog-hai

Sounds to me like they pissed off the wrong Psycopath. There are a whole lot easier ways to die than suffocation. Dont know of a single person who would not take the bag off of their head or tear a hole in it if their hands were free.


33 posted on 06/05/2013 6:30:00 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: RobertClark

As a rule, people teach what they need to learn.


34 posted on 06/05/2013 6:34:56 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: pabianice

“Bullshit. No one suffocating this way can stop the impulse to rip-off the bags. People suffocating will rip one another to bloody chunks to get air.”

Depends how many pills they took first.


35 posted on 06/05/2013 6:41:54 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: Olog-hai

Next, I suppose people will argue that this tragedy says nothing at all about the self-help industry (and an “industry” it is!) Isolated instance.


36 posted on 06/05/2013 6:43:47 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: t1b8zs
exit bags..news to me...happy not to travel in that social circle

That's okay. It's a dead end.

37 posted on 06/05/2013 7:16:27 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Olog-hai

Following Peter Singer’s advise?


38 posted on 06/05/2013 9:02:15 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: Olog-hai

RIP RIP


39 posted on 06/05/2013 10:38:37 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Olog-hai

Sometimes it’s a burden carrying the weight of others’ problems.


40 posted on 06/06/2013 12:55:47 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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