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WWII in color: Rare photos from 1942 show Flying Fortress
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| 03/19/13
| Snejana Farberov
Posted on 03/19/2013 5:44:56 PM PDT by Doogle
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To: tanknetter
Yep, 2011, in Illinois. I wondered at the time if she had the same 2-man crew.
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posted on
03/19/2013 7:41:49 PM PDT
by
Dysart
( Democracy is the road to socialism-- Karl Marx)
To: tanknetter
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thx...
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posted on
03/19/2013 7:42:28 PM PDT
by
Chode
(Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
To: Windflier
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welcome
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posted on
03/19/2013 7:42:47 PM PDT
by
Chode
(Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
To: ASOC
In those days, if you wanted a high quality photograph, you used a Rolleiflex or a Leica.
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posted on
03/19/2013 8:02:59 PM PDT
by
reg45
(Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
To: yarddog
The Lancaster was lightly armed and had no match for the American bombsight. That's why it was used for night carpet bombings instead of precision daylight bombings as the B17 was.
The Brits did develop a tachimetric bombsight late in the war but the heavy lifting was always done by the Mighty Eighth. Simply superior equipment. Pretty, who the F knows or cares.
To: Doogle
... October 1943 when 60 bombers were destroyed and 600 pilots(sic) perished in a single raid in Germany.This was the second raid on Schweinfurt, the center of the Reich's ball bearing industry. A crippling attack on the wheels of the Nazi war machine. After the war Albert Speer the Nazi supply genius, acknowledged that a rapid follow-up on this raid would have caused the Wehrmacht to grind to halt, ending the war in six weeks. Sadly there was no third raid on Schweinfurt.
To: Chode
....get your meds, your seeing dots....*smiles*
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posted on
03/19/2013 8:19:29 PM PDT
by
Doogle
(USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
To: Windflier
Roger that. And amazingly, the B17 was the first American production bomber with a metal skin. The very dawn of the air era.
To: ken5050
This isn’t a challenge to the accuracy of your statement about 8th Air Force records. Would you give me links? I would appreciate it. I have been looking for such records for a long time. I had a late cousin who was a top-turret gunner/flight engineer. I would like to track his missions.
I guess I’m not the online researcher some are.
Thank you.
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posted on
03/19/2013 8:21:19 PM PDT
by
righttackle44
(Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
To: Doogle
I my opinion the B-17 was the coolest, most beautiful looking plane ever built.It represents righteous American might,’’ winged victory’’ if you will. Besides it had the large area around the nose on which to paint those Emilo Vargas- style of scantily clad babes with names like “Sack Time’’, “Shoo Shoo Baby’’ and my favorite “Miss Bea Haven’’. I have had the honor over the years of know a couple of vets who flew in B-17s serving in The Eighth Air Force. One was a pilot , another was a navigator and the third guy was a ball-turret gunner. They have all told me that they’re because they flew in a B-17. One of them told “You could be shot thorough with holes with one or two engines out and still she’d bring you home’’.
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posted on
03/19/2013 8:23:14 PM PDT
by
jmacusa
(Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
To: Dysart
No doubt, but the fact is the B17 could fly very well with three or even two engines. There was that much surplus power in those 1200 HP Wright turbocharged engines.
To: hinckley buzzard
The B-17 was in fact better armed as was the B-24.
The big advantage the Lancaster had was it’s incredible for the time bomb load. It could carry 22,000 pounds. It also had a much longer range than the B-17.
I will admit that an American aircraft carrying 13 .50 caliber guns was way ahead of 10 .303 machine guns.
I know that Lancasters were still being used only a few years ago, tho not as bombers.
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posted on
03/19/2013 8:24:10 PM PDT
by
yarddog
(Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: Doogle
My God they’re kids. Teenagers and yet they had the guts to fly in those planes. We’ll never agian see the like of such men.
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posted on
03/19/2013 8:28:21 PM PDT
by
jmacusa
(Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
To: righttackle44
If you know a military unit, bomb group or whatever, it simplifies the search tremendously. Many of them have websites with archival material.
To: Windflier
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posted on
03/19/2013 8:29:35 PM PDT
by
jmacusa
(Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
To: yarddog
The Lancaster bomb load was large but consigned to highly inaccurate and ineffective night time carpet bombing. They used primarily incendiary bombs, as opposed to explosives, for a reason.
Let us be honest, the carpet bombing was essentially a terror tactic which failed, not a military strategic offensive as was the American precision daylight attacks against military targets. In fact the Brits opposed the American strategy, and one wonders why, given the results.
To: jmacusa
The average bomber crew member was in his early twenties. As in 21 to 25 on up. Not teenagers but still--what were you doing at 22 years old?
To: jmacusa
Teenagers and yet they had the guts to fly in those planes. Well never agian see the like of such men.I was thinking the same thing...baby faces, all. We'll never see the likes again, indeed :(
Many Thanks Brave Ones.
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posted on
03/19/2013 8:39:38 PM PDT
by
Jane Long
(Background checks? Dandy idea, Mr. President. Shoulda started with yours. - Sarah Palin)
To: Doogle; All
If you haven't read, I highly recommend "Freedom's Forge." The story of how we produced our ships and planes to win the war is amazing.
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