Indonesian Citizen Barack Obama Writes School Essay Calling Himself Barry Soetoro

Obamareleaseyourrecords.com ^ | 2 june 2012 | Daily Mail Reporter (UK)

[urtax$@work]

as he grew older, he began taking bigger risks. When he was living in Hawaii, he used to drag race with his friends. Once, when he was in a car a friend was driving he got into an crash.

'The car he was riding in flipped and landed upside down,' Mr Maraniss writes. 'The other car turned around and found Obama, who had crawled out a back window, laughing hysterically.'

Ok FReepers, there was blogging about secreted efforts to hide driver-identity and records of an auto crash and the investigation records in Hawaii.... I think it was written by one of the main lawyers fighting to expose Obam. The question was WHY such efforts to hide the identity and spend big bucks- i think well after the event.... Any one remember this ??

[steveo]

Ibu is Indonesian for "mother" or can be used as a respectful title similar to Mrs.

The male equivalent is Bapak pronounced Bapa almost sounding like papa. Used for Father or Mr. or Sir when addressing a male of higher status.

[little jeremiah]

Interesting, never saw that one before. So a photo of the doting new mom and baby was taken in Indonesia, replete with grandmas; but not a single photo of the purported mother and baby/young toddler or with purported grandma and Zero.

[little jeremiah]

My educated (from FR) intuition says that the drag racing story is made up to provide cover for the scars on his head.

[GreenLanternCorps]

When a child is adopted by a citizen of another country then yes, that child can "renounce" his US citizenship

Especially if the country of his adopted parents does not recognize dual citizenship (ie, Indonesia)

However, if this occurred to a minor who was a bona fide US citizen before adoption, then he may ask to have his US citizenship reinstated - if he does so within 6 months of becoming 18 yrs old

Barrys adoption has not been a secret, though the records of who he was before adoption and what he became after turning age 18 are missing or sealed. An adopted child is issued a new birth certificate. Hawaii MUST have this on file. His previous records are sealed. fwiw, I have adopted a child from abroad.

I find it entirely plausible that Barry Soetero/Sutoro (choose a spelling) became an Indonesian citizen and had his name legally changed to “Sutoro” (choose a spelling) upon adoption by Lolo Sutoro - his mother Ann was contemptuous of America and could not wait to leave

but that lil Barry who was sent back to Hawaii at age 10 probably never legally changed his named back to “Obama” or formally asked to have his US citizenship reinstated upon turning 18

Why would he want to go to all that legal stuff to be a US citizen? Given that his family was so contemptuous of America and that Barry was “probably” registered in school and college under a foreign nationality to derive prestige or affirmative action and loan/scholarship benefits

Now, how he got a Connecticut SSN and a US passport- we leave it up to history to determine. Too bad Toot died so suddenly and fortuitously so she can never tell

Under the Supreme Court ruling in Perkins Vs Elg (1939), you would be correct, but since the 1967 ruling in Afroyim v. Rusk the court pointed out that since citizenship is held as a right under the Constitution, once gained lawfully, it cannot be lost except by an affirmative act (or in the case of a naturalized citizen, obtaining it by fraud). A minor child cannot make such and act, and a parent cannot deprive a child of their right.

This effectively ruled the various "Bancroft Treaties", that made a person lose their US Citizenship when naturalized as the citizen of another country, unconstitutional and void.

So nothing his parents or step parent did in Indonesia, could deprive him of his citizenship, period. Nor does he have to do anything affirmative to regain a citizenship he never lost.

Unless you have a document showing that Barack/Barry Hussein Obama/Soetero/Sutero explicitly renounced his US Citizenship, as prescribed by law, after his 18th Birthday, he is a US Citizen. (Traveling on a foreign passport would not be enough, because acknowledging a second citizenship does not deprive you of US citizenship.)

By the way, congratulations on adopting from abroad, you have given your child/children a two precious gifts, parents who love them and becoming American.

[john mirse]

Both of my sons were born in the Army Hospital at Camp Zama, and their births were registered at the U S Consulate in Yokohama. No questions here. My daughter was born in a British hospital. Her birth was duly recorded at the U S Consulate in Liverpool. She was a dual-citizen until age 21 when she became a full U S citizen since both parents were both natural-born U S citizens.

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Just wondering: When your children were very young, did they need their own individual passports, or were their names simply added to your or your wife's passports in those days?

1. Do any of your children have their own individual passports today? If they do, did they have to provide legal documents to get their passports?

2. When you and your wife obtained your passports, what legal documents did you have to provide?

3. I ask the questions above for the following reason:

4. Back in 2008 before the presidential election, I read a message on an Israeli website that offered this theory as to why Obama may have been able to obtain a U.S. passport when he was an adult without presenting a birth certificate:

5. The poster said that back in the 1960s and 1970s, he thought that if a child was already listed on one of his parent's passports, the child could obtain his own passport later by simply pointing to his name on his parent's passport, that is, Obama, according to the poster, might have been able to obtain a U.S. passport without providing a copy of his long form birth certificate.

6. If you could help me with my questions above, I would appreciate it.

[Georgia Girl 2]

“Where are the court papers that he changed his name to Barack Obama when he re-patriated to US????”

There probably aren’t any as he most likely never repatriated just came back and started using his birth name. Thats probably why he doesn’t want his birth certificate released because it has a bunch of addendums from the Soetoro adoption changing his name.

[ebysan]

Obama’s BC # may have come from Baby who died one day after her birth 1961

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Virginia Sunahara was Born in Hawaii August 4th,1961 & died the next day

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Hawaii Dept of Health has no record of Virginia’s Birth yet she has a marker in Vet. Cemetary in HI

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Obama’s Grandmother Madelyn Dunham had access to all Death Certificates in HI

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New Lawsuit Filed Against Hawaii Dept of Health on Behalf of Duncan Sunahara(Virginia’ brother)
ObamaRelease YourRecords ^ | Wednesday, January 4, 2012; 5:02 PM
Posted on January 4, 2012 6:33:27 PM PST by Red Steel

Excerpted, more here at http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/01/new-lawsuit-filed-against-hawaii.html#comment-form

[WashingtonSource]

Alice Palmer looks like a diesel trucking-driving, hammer-toting, dildo-pushing dyke.

[Ax]

1. Yes. At first all of them were on their mother’s passport, then as they got older, they had their own passports. I think my daughter got her first one at age five.
2. Our pssports were official for the first few decades were all official and then diplomatic. My employer took care of all of the application work. For our tourist passports that we obtained overseas, all we needed to show the consulate was our active pp.

4. In my experience, one needs to present a valid birth certificate to obtain a pp. I don’t think a drivers license or a library card would do.

5. If he was in fact on his mother’s pp, he would have to show it personally to the consulate.

Hope this helps, John.

[Fred Nerks]

I would be interested to see any one of the
‘so many other pictures’ that you mean.
Any link to the source of the story that he beat up a boy in an ally would be useful also, thanks.

[Fred Nerks]

There’s got to be a Soebarkah/Soetoro connection somehow. Not knowing Indonesian naming conventions doesn’t help.

If there are any Indonesian-speaking FReepers, I need help with a translation from spoken Indonesian (video) please.

[hoosiermama]

Read my tag line....With Obamie “O” replacing the O in Or...”Lying Now Or Then” would make a good bumper sticker.

[hoosiermama]

Fred, Steveo may be able to help with translations and names.

[Fred Nerks]

thanks...now that would be good...are you there, steveo?

[little jeremiah]

Freepmail just sent your way. But it maybe your problem is solved now.

[steveo]

I am in no way an expert, but it's an easy language. If I can't answer a question I have a great resource to access.

BTW, one time in Bali I asked a local who was talking about the "0" if he knew where he was born... his reply was a nonplussed "Indonesia...".

What I don't know is that if at that time Indonesia allowed dual-citizenship. At this point in time they do not.

[hoosiermama]

At the time that he “lived” there (in Lolo’s house) it did NOT allow joint citizenship. My understandding is that a step (non-biological) child could not live in his house unless he adopted him (Don’t know if a “court order/legal” or of a “custom/tribal” type was done).

SADO had unusual ideas about legality of relationships: No marriage license, but a divorce....No wonder he’s so messed up.

[Fred Nerks]

Anything is possible...and thanks for your response, I will send you the links to the website that has TWO videos - I won’t place them here because so many links disappear and so much is cleansed when one draws attention to it.

You will have private mail in a moment.

I think the videos are rather long, please look at them and let us know if it’s possible to transcribe them.

[Graewoulf]

That is a great question to ask the American Bar Association!