Posted on 04/11/2012 6:54:38 PM PDT by svxdave
Which of his economic moves do you love most? His taxpayer funded free cars and car insurance for welfare recipients, his $50 or free abortions, his own special crap and tax for Massachusetts or is it all of the socialist Romneycare itself that you favor the most?
He’s not just a social liberal, he’s a economic liberal as well, and just remember, when it comes to socialist liberal programs, Romney did it first in Massachusetts!
I know his history very well thank you and I’m extremely pissed off that he is going to be the nominee. see my new tagline.
Land doesn’t speak for THIS Southern Baptist.
(Thanks for calling Abraham Lincoln & Teddy Roosevelt & Ike & Ronald Reagan "evil"...I'm sure many FREEPERs will send you notices of 'appreciation'....NOT!)
Well, I've had this discussion many a time on various FR threads...where the Q is raised: Are we voting for a 'pastor-in-chief' or commander-in-chief?
There's a few operating Bible-based "principles" that undergird this Q...And it's essentially this:
Principle: This question addresses not only the role and identity of the POTUS, but the perceived 'self' identity of the candidate. If a given candidate thinks he's a 'god' or 'would-be' god, he exposes himself as deceived on one of the most basic elemental identity issues you can think of.
If a candidate doesn't even know who he is fundamentally, how do we know similar distortions won't effect his judgment? Besides, if he inwardly lauds himself as 'divine,' why would we want to reinforce such an idolater who steals glory from the One True God?
Then there's an associated principle to consider here: Is a POTUS a 'minister' of sorts?
Apparently, you might say 'no.'
I say 'yes,' and here's why:
Even non-religious people tend to at times honor the Bible. The Biblical record shows that true successful leadership in public office is done by those who fear the TRUE Lord -- not by some low-level Mormon god who is part of a great number of Mormon gods...
And these Biblical leaders did not -- or were not to -- worship false gods/idols. The Old Testament is replete w/ such examples. The Israelites had secular kings, not "pastors in chief." But that didn't mean that these kings' ministrations were any less a "ministry." Romans 13 makes it clear that public office is also a "ministry." Those who contend against this are openly militating against this Scripture.
It doesn't mean that public officeholders administrate in a parochial way; it just means that public office is a "ministry of service" like the soup kitchen down the street.
History (biblical & otherwise) shows that the more pagan or counterfeit god that a leader adheres to, the more trouble that leader's "exhaust" settles on the people-at-large. Kings & presidents need all the grace, mercy, & guidance possible, since God gets more credit for preserving & directing leaders than we care to give Him credit for. Therefore, one who worships a false god & has no true relationship w/the living God is stifling access to God's resources; & a nation may suffer for that.
Therefore, we must weigh a candidate's level of vulnerability to deception - for that transcends 'religious' considerations: If a candidate is gullible in the most important area of his life -- his faith – this serves as an excellent indicator of potential other gullibilities.
What insults? We can’t talk honestly about our candidates flaws?
I have been called a mormon plant, a dead soul and various other insults by some on this forum. I have not insulted anyone.
As a tea party member and a conservative Christian I thought i could converse openly with other conservatives.
My goal is to get rid of Obama and his communist pals and restore the constitution.
Your posting history on this thread exposes your agenda to be that of character assassination of Newt Gingrich, working to establish milt rominy’s inevitability as the pubby nominee. So with this latest whine we see you’re purposely trying to deceive readers, too. Go pimp your milt rominy somewhere that your fellow dead souls will appreciate. The nomination is not yet determined and you rominyites are not yet the ‘saviors of the constitution’ white horse crap spewers you believe yourselves to be.
Reagan was a great man, however, Reagan was wrong with the Marines in Lebanon, and Reagan was wrong in granting Amnesty and in trusting the Dems to reduce spending in exchange for a tax increase. Reagan, also, made some moves as Governor of CA that would not go over well, today.
Nobody is perfect.
Study your history and quit making saints out of politicians of the past.
I speak for myself.
However, MILLIONS MORE agree with me than with you.
That you detest Romney is not enough, by itself, to justify harm to every Republican on the ballot, this year.
That you detest Romney is not enough, by itself, to justify your behavior.
You are doing nothing of any benefit to the conservative cause.
You are actually causing harm to the conservative cause.
Obama is dangerous. You say NOTHING negative about Obama, ever, from what I can tell.
We can not hold the House and take the Senate with any 3rd Party option.
Coat Tails matter.
We can refuse to support Romney with money or bumper stickers or yard signs, but refrain from costing the other Republicans their Congressional seats!
You never endorsed Santorum and you don't speak for me or a great majority of evangelicals....
...You're important in your own eyes.
You're sad.
IMO, informed....AND compromised to the nth degree.
...I was, and still am, a Santorum supporter....
..and I, along with the others who promoted and upheld Santorum....
..were insulted most viciously on a daily basis by a certain group on FR....with ridicule, vitriol and untruths.
No one....but no one.... of this forum's moderators...came to our defense..
.... we only had each other's back.
Just thought you should know.
You will remember I left a few months ago when I saw your endorsement of Gingrich...(who I was neutral about)..
...and was beginning to experience intense ridicule for my choice of candidate, Rick Santorum
I folded and ran away from the insults
......but realized there were many here on a daily basis fighting for my chosen candidate....
..so I returned to do my part and help them.
You can do whatever you want with my account.....my heart isn't in it anymore.
Frankly that is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Is Romney a conservative? NO.. However you give Obama 4 more years I highly doubt there will be a representative Republic of any shape left on the other end. I dont worry about that with Romney. Say what you want about Romney I am not a big fan but I would vote for crewed up dog food that has been digested and dropped in the back yard over Obama and it would be a 100% improvement compared to Obama on any issue. In a Romney vs Obama contest, say and do what you will but if Obama wins and you did not vote Romney then in 4 years look in the mirror and blame it on yourself. If you dont see any difference between Romney and Obama then you really dont know what Obama is all about. Like I said give me Romney everyday over Obama I would even take Clinton back over Obama. Obama is a danger to all freedom loving people in this nation and must be voted out. Even if the GOP picked Bill Clinton I would be first in line crawling across nails and broken glass to vote. Oh you want 1 difference? Obama is in the image of people like saul alinsky that hate and want to destroy this nation and Romney atleast worked and lived the American dream and I have no reason to believe he wakes up every morning thinking how he can cripple this nation.
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