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The Peak Oil Crisis: Cold Fusion Redux
Falls Church News Press ^ | Wednesday, November 02 2011 01:19:52 PM | By Tom Whipple

Posted on 11/02/2011 2:31:43 PM PDT by Kevmo

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To: Kevmo
High costs for fossil fuels would be a major incentive, but simply re-provisioning 7 or 8 billion people would be a major job. This would suggest that higher oil prices will remain a factor in our lives no matter what happens with other sources of energy.

I disagree about the high oil prices. Oil prices are sensitive to demand, and relatively small changes in demand or supply can have large effects on prices.

One trend I'm seeing is conversion of diesel trucks to run on Liquified Natural Gas (which currently has a price equivalent to about $2/gal diesel). The big issue involves fueling stations: it's a chicken/egg problem where truck stops don't want to install NG capabilities if there's no NG-based trucks, and trucking firms want fueling capabilities there before investing in conversion. But the infrastructure is slowly being built up and may reach critical mass in the next one or two years along some routes.

21 posted on 11/02/2011 3:15:13 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Civilization is unnatural. It is a whim of circumstance. Barbarism must always ultimately triumph.)
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To: BallandPowder
I have a theory about Moonman62 and Allmendream and the other seagulls. They tend to be rude and inconsiderate and generally obnoxious, making the average reader dislike their posts, and by extension their point of view.

Intellectually I'm very much in the middle of the road on the Ecat, but emotionally I find them constantly driving me into the opposite camp out of sheer antipathy to their attacks. So it takes discipline on my part to stay in the objective middle. I suspect they have a similar effect on the average reader.

Thus, I am tending to believe the seagulls like Moonman and Allmendream are secretly in the Rossi camp, maybe as paid supporters, to ramp up support for the Ecat and suck in investors and buyers. It's a less crazy idea than most of what they come up with, at any rate.

22 posted on 11/02/2011 3:53:43 PM PDT by Liberty1970 (Daddy to Lily Ann, born 3:50 AM, 10/15/11, 9 lb/4 oz. of joy!)
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To: Kevmo
Cheap, pollution-free energy could, in theory, reset the clock on global warming

I hope not. We're in an interglacial period. If it stops being warm, we'll be on our way to being buried under a mile thick ice again.

23 posted on 11/02/2011 5:35:04 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Don’t worry, we can use ecats to bore holes through the ice.

Besides, ice is fresh water — lotsa problems solved right there. And it makes a good refridgerator.


24 posted on 11/02/2011 5:38:00 PM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: PapaBear3625

I’m wondering the best play right now, since I don’t know who the customer is, would be to short oil somehow. I have seen the projections that oil price would go down immediately, but I’m not an economist and don’t know why that’s the case.


25 posted on 11/02/2011 5:41:31 PM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo
...lotsa problems solved right there

Maybe not, unless there's a plan on how to grow crops and livestock on the surface of the ice during conditions that denote non-growing seasons.

26 posted on 11/02/2011 5:45:41 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

We can harness polar bears and use them to plow the...

well, I’ll get back to you.


27 posted on 11/02/2011 5:51:24 PM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo

Thought this might interest you.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/11/02/andrea-rossi-italian-cold-fusion-plant/?test=faces

A physicist in Italy claims to have demonstrated a new type of power plant that provides safe, cheap and virtually unlimited nuclear power to the world, without fossil fuels or radiation concerns.

The only hitch: Scientists say the method — cold fusion — is patently impossible. They say it defies the laws of physics.

Andrea Rossi doesn’t seem to care. He told FoxNews.com that his new device takes in nickel and hydrogen and fuses them in a low-grade nuclear reaction that essentially spits out sheer power, validating the strange science.

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Italian Scientists Claim (Dubious) Cold Fusion Breakthrough
“With low energy, it’s possible to give a heater a certain amount of energy and to get from the same heater a superior amount of energy,” Rossi explained. He claims he demonstrated the device, called an E-Cat, at the University of Bologna in Italy on Oct. 28.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/11/02/andrea-rossi-italian-cold-fusion-plant/?test=faces#ixzz1cdDTV100


28 posted on 11/03/2011 2:12:49 AM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: Kevmo
I have seen the projections that oil price would go down immediately, but I’m not an economist and don’t know why that’s the case.

People holding oil would try to sell immediately in anticipation of further price drops, oil producers would crank production to maximum in order to sell before prices dropped further, etc.

29 posted on 11/03/2011 3:25:19 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Civilization is unnatural. It is a whim of circumstance. Barbarism must always ultimately triumph.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Maybe not, unless there's a plan on how to grow crops and livestock on the surface of the ice during conditions that denote non-growing seasons.

Make heat cheap enough, and you'll see greenhouses sprouting up in colder regions.

30 posted on 11/03/2011 3:27:33 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Civilization is unnatural. It is a whim of circumstance. Barbarism must always ultimately triumph.)
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To: Kevmo; Moonman62; Liberty1970

Why do you keep linking back you this post to you?

To: Kevmo
Knock off the personal attacks and seagull nonsense.
54 posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 6:38:43 PM by Admin Moderator


31 posted on 11/03/2011 7:33:47 AM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: Liberty1970

“Intellectually I’m very much in the middle of the road on the Ecat, but emotionally I find them constantly driving me into the opposite camp out of sheer antipathy to their attacks.”

Uh huh ... See link for your lovefest thread ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2790674/posts


32 posted on 11/03/2011 7:39:21 AM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: Kevmo
I’m wondering the best play right now,

Your best bet is to get in on the ground floor. IMMEDIATELY send Rossi a check for $100,000. Just make sure you get a receipt.

33 posted on 11/03/2011 7:41:05 AM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas
Kevmo uses this new "cut and paste" where he used to use his seagull cut and pastes. Most of the time he uses it to avoid answering tough questions or acknowledging something embarrassing about Rossi. To Kevmo's credit he does admit that Rossi is non-scientific, that his demos suck (Kevmo's word), and that he has no people skills, but then Kevmo goes right back into Rossi worship mode.

I think Rossi is intentionally leaving a trail of public evidence that he's incompetent and that the ecat doesn't work, so that he'll have an excellent legal defense when he's arrested (again).

34 posted on 11/03/2011 11:09:41 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: NewinTexsas

I’ve posted quite a few threads on this subject, pro and con. One of my problems with the pseudoskeptics is they pick and choose what data to consider. You just gave an example of that.


35 posted on 11/03/2011 12:00:52 PM PDT by Liberty1970 (Daddy to Lily Ann, born 3:50 AM, 10/15/11, 9 lb/4 oz. of joy!)
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To: Liberty1970
One of my problems with the pseudoskeptics is they pick and choose what data to consider.

Data is data. If you have a problem with the data, take it up with the author of the data.

36 posted on 11/03/2011 3:54:31 PM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: Moonman62; Kevmo

K put up the Nobel Prize winner endorsement as ‘proof’ of a legitimate operation. I thanked him for bringing up the same guy that promotes his theory on water molecules retain their healing memory in homeopathic medicines. Then I told him how enlightening a google search of ‘Kevmo homeopathic’ was.

Great minds think alike!


37 posted on 11/03/2011 3:58:08 PM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas

I gave up on you across all LENR threads as far as I recall.


38 posted on 11/03/2011 7:55:15 PM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: NewinTexsas

Last I recall, I gave up on you because you went off the deep end.


39 posted on 11/03/2011 8:37:49 PM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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