Posted on 10/19/2011 6:53:00 AM PDT by truthkeeper
Sure...we all know innocent people are never charged with a crime...
(rolls eyes)
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There has been nothing reported on the two boys (ages 6 & 8)
What do you suppose they were doing while Mom and the friend were getting drunk? Were they sleeping, watching TV, playing with the baby sister?
Did they open the door while Mom was passed out and baby Lisa walked out of the house? Did they look for her and not tell the mother she was gone because they were afraid of being punished ? Were they playing with the cell phones?
The parents never mentioned the boys being asleep or being roused to ask if they knew anything. Were the boys jealous of the new baby?
—Regardless of how effective they usually are, they’re not going to be any more effective if you withhold pertinent information from the investigators.—
Not true. They may be effective at convicting YOU.
I’m not making a stand here, really. If one of my kids was abducted I’d probably tell them everything they want to know. But I’d tell them EVERYTHING up front. Including the “damning” stuff. Heck, this woman being drunk at the time is a non-starter for me. A lot of people, from time to time, and in the privacy of their own home, and even WITH kids sleeping, will get drunk. It’s irrelevant on its own. She could have been passed out drunk and it wouldn’t matter. Some people sleep hard too. Doesn’t mean they are irresponsible and their irresponsibility led to their child being abducted.
Getting drunk while three children (one being a sick infant) are in your care is totally irresponsible. And she told Megan Kelly she drinks several times a week. There is NO EXCUSE for this! She should at least be charged with child neglect/endangerment.
Some 40 years ago my toddler wandered off into the woods behind the house. Dad working in the front yard, Mom working in the back. Each thought the baby was with the other one.
That was one hair-raising experience. Fortunately, the dog was the culprit - baby had followed it into the woods and then turned it into a game of hide-and-seek. Of course, 40 years ago we did not call the cops - we asked the neighborhood kids to help. We never considered stranger abduction. The dog finally barked when he heard us yelling.
That was 40 years ago - and times were very different.
—Getting drunk while three children (one being a sick infant) are in your care is totally irresponsible.—
Well, first we have to ask, “how drunk”. And it matters.
—And she told Megan Kelly she drinks several times a week.—
Which begs the queestion, does she get DRUNK three times a week.
—There is NO EXCUSE for this!—
What is to be excused?
—She should at least be charged with child neglect/endangerment.—
I live in an area overrun with Southern Baptists that are tea totalers. I live in a dry county. Some of those people would think it was irresponsible to have a glass of wine with dinner. Fortunately, their opinion carries no weight. I’m a bit more forgiving of people than that.
Being a man, I know the heart of man. I know that we ALL take risks on a daily or hourly basis. Some more dangerous than others. I intentionally spun my car out with the eBrake yesterday. I was in my OWN 8 acre recently mowed hayfield and the risk was pretty much non-existent.
Getting “drunk” (not pass out, falling down drunk) while your children sleep is not all that risky. Until I know HOW drunk she was, I’ll reserve judgement.
BTW, I used to come home to a wife who was drunk and asleep every day. I had three daughters. I was never worried for my kids safety because she wasn’t “that” drunk. It takes more than a bottle of wine to make a person dangerous drunk. Frankly, it takes more than a couple of bottles, unless they are driving or operating heavy machinery.
On a side note, that woman divorced me and works in the wine department of a grocery store. :-D
—That was 40 years ago - and times were very different.—
In some ways they are not as different as one would think. I remember when they first started putting kids pictures on milk cartons. I had three young daughters and was concerned about the incredibly high child abduction statistics. Then one day I did some research and discovered that, save one or two kids per state per year, the abductions were done by relatives and, most often, estranged spouses.
I stopped worrying about it.
Megyn Kelly on now and confirming that the mother last checked on Lisa at 6:40 pm. NOT 10:30 pm. It’s not clear when the drinking buddy left and when Mom passed out.
Not discussed - where were the two little boys during this period?
I realize you are no longer married to this woman but I'd like to give my opinion on your statement: If she was supposed to be watching your children but was asleep - she put them in danger. It wouldn't matter if she was drunk or just taking a nap.
And I'm kind of shocked that you think a bottle of wine wouldn't be enough to get someone drunk - "dangerously" was your term. I'm not a big drinker and a bottle of wine would be enough to, at the very least, cause me to get sleepy enough to be out. I woule never make to to several bottles of wine - I'd be throwing up well before that. Alcohol does that to me - I will be sick for days (which is why I really don't drink much)
You are right in the other comments - this woman did admit to being drunk many times - saying she is known to just go to sleep - so drinking to the point of being drunk is a part of her life.
I think she was not paying attention - the child died somehow and the baby daddy helped dispose of her and is lying. They are both going down for this
I have kept both of you on the Baby Lisa ping list. :-)
She was drinking with the next door neighbor, who also has a young child. The older children were supposedly watching tv I think - so they were awake. Wasn’t this a school night? Shouldn’t those boys have been bathed and in bed by 9pm at the latest?
You should watch the ID Channel. It will make you cautious. Very cautious.
Just heard on Fox news that the cops showed up at parents’ house today armed with their search warrant, shovels, rakes, and dogs. They have been digging in the backyard, piling up the dirt, and sifting through it.
—You should watch the ID Channel.—
What is that?
I will say that what I’ve learned to do is filter the “scary news” stuff. When I hear an “identity theft” commercial coming on the radio I immediately change the channel. I know that hearing the same thing, over and over, makes you believe it more, even against your better judgement. It means that anything that I cannot really do anything about, I don’t want to know about, unless there is a productive thing I can get out of it.
I live in an area where there are quite a few lightning storms. I don’t know anyone that has ever been struck by lightning, but I still avoid things like playing golf in a lightning storm. If I watched a lot of stories about people that were hit by lightning and follow up stories about the survivors, I’d be petrified. But I don’t, so I’m not. :-)
on please
They must have something we don’t know about that leads them to believe the parents know what happened to this little girl.
Or else, they don’t have any other suspects.
So far, I haven’t heard enough to convince me that the mom or dad are guilty.
But that could be because we haven’t heard all the facts.
:-)
Did you watch Megan Kelly’s interview with Deborah?
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