Posted on 05/15/2011 1:28:24 PM PDT by jongaltsr
You sound like Jared Loughner. You are easily confused and misled by semantics.
Using farming as a metaphor for life is a simple play on words and manipulation of evidence to forward a particular agenda - Marxism. To pretend that a benevolent farmer can make life pleasant for everyone is to suggest that central control is the best social order. Even the pretense of freedom is lauded.
Shakespeare said, “All the world is a stage and we but players.” That is a better metaphor.
The problem with the Benevolent Dictator (farmer) form of government is that there is no guarantee that the heir to the throne will be equally benevolent or wise.
Having some experience with training dogs and horses I disagree with this statement, “An animal can feel momentary pain or fear, but it lacks the brain capacity to be coerced with the fear of future pain. “ I prefer reward over punishment but animals do remember pain and fear and attempt to avoid it in the future.
Man is naturally endowed with many traits that work against Pavlov’s conditioned reaction. Animals are not. Man deals with the abstract as often as the concrete. Animals don’t. Man makes tools to further his ambitions. Animals don’t. Man ponders his existence and his creation. Animals don’t.
Stop indulging in these Marxist fantasies. They don’t exist in the real world.
See tagline.
Do you know that the FED charges this country for the use of “their” money?
That our taxes are used to pay back a private bank, for the privilege of using “our” money? That Congress can issue money apart from the FED, as the Constitution requires? What better way to turn a country into a Marxist dream than to subvert the monetary system?
We ARE being used as a money farm, with ever increasing taxes to hold up the debt that the FED has created to KEEP the fiat money ponzi going.
THAT is a “farm”, and a marxist one at that. WE are already are under FASCISM now. Can you say TARP?
I do not think the poster of this thread is “indulging in Marxist fantasies”. I think he is trying to wake people up.
Why the use of the term “farm”? Why can’t you just state the facts without comparing it to a farm?
What is being discussed is basic human nature which is usually good but sometimes it is bad. That we all seek to better our situations is no new human discovery. In fact, R. Buckminster Fuller said that free enterprise has the unique ability to transform the selfish desires of the individual into a good for the whole. Does that make humans livestock? Not by a long shot.
Have we allowed the government to get too big, to stray from their original mandate. Certainly. Is the Federal Reserve a bad idea that also strayed from the Constitution. Sure.
I tried the watch the video but got less than half way through. The analogy just does not work for me. Too hokey. Perhaps that is a shortcoming on my part but I think the entire concept is foolishness, but foolishness with a purpose and it is not a good one.
Have you never read “Animal Farm”?
I find the analogy fits and echos the revulsion people have to realizing that we have become slaves.
Debt slaves to be more precise. And Debt Slavery is NOT capitalism.
Pointing out enslavement is not an easy job.
If people are comfortable and THINK they are not “enslaved”, then waking them up to the fact that they ARE enslaved takes some doing.
You spotted this for what it really was - thanks.
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Save For Later...
Either to read or to reference...
he likely meant “save for later”.
Usually when someone makes a post like this, they are “bookmarking” the thread for themselves. What people often forget to do, is to change the “To:” to their nick so they are not pinging someone else for no purpose.
According to the History of the Income Tax in our almanac, the federal income tax was first enacted in 1862 to support the Union's Civil War effort. It was eliminated in 1872, revived in 1894, then declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court the following year. In 1913, the 16th Amendment to the Constitution made the income tax a permanent fixture in the U.S. tax system.
You missed just a tad on that point.
Remember the fact that Social Security was Supposed to be voluntary?
You are wrong there, too. It was always mandatory with the taxes automatically deducted from your pay to make sure you paid them. Initially though, many occupations, plus women and most minorities, were excluded from the system.
Your nostalgia for the fifties is also equally colored by your age, knowledge, and location at the time. Sales taxes and exemptions were different in different cities. As far as laws being simple and straight forward, SS was passed in 1935. Read that as it stood in the fifties and see how simple it was. The income tax was passed in 1913. Read the fifties version of that.
I totally agree that the reach and size of government has been dramatic. The Communist started their infiltration of our country in the late 1800's. The Communists Party USA was started in 1907. Do a search for Communists Goals and see that they have accomplished most of what they intended. Research the Frankfurt School and Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals and see how they are doing it.
I object to the attitude that we are already domesticated animals who are being farmed. The only farmer is God and He gave us free will. Stop your whining and defeatist attitude and fight back. We may be behind in the bottom of the ninth but the game ain't over. Fight back or STFU!
See post 33.
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