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Old times not forgotten: Civil War at 150
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| CHRISTOPHER SULLIVAN
Posted on 04/02/2011 7:53:41 AM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: mstar
181
posted on
04/06/2011 6:22:49 AM PDT
by
mojitojoe
(In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
To: jmacusa
182
posted on
04/06/2011 6:27:20 AM PDT
by
mojitojoe
(In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
To: donmeaker
4 boys, no girls. What happened to the girls?We haven't gotten to this yet. We're looking for the gold, remember?
You reveal your ignorance of forensic accounting by requiring a ludicrous standard. We laugh at you.
Still waiting for the documentation. We're looking for the gold. Earnings and expenditures, please.
To: donmeaker; southernsunshine; Idabilly; central_va; mojitojoe; cowboyway; Mr. Lucky
I dont think it a smear.
Well then. . . once upon a time there were three bears living in the woods, the papa bear, the mama bear, and the baby bear. . .
Hey I bet you just run to stand in Walmart's longest checkout line to devour all things tabloid.
Look The Don, this is real easy yet you insist on making your life a trial to all. . .
Provide sound DOCUMENTATION or what you say is a SMEAR
With all these high profile players and places this should be a breeze.
BTW, word is there are some great anti-psychotic meds on the market these days that could help manage your delusions and you could live a normal life.
So why don't go check all this out and not "ping" me anymore . . . thanks.
184
posted on
04/06/2011 9:42:52 AM PDT
by
mstar
(Immediate State Action)
To: mstar
185
posted on
04/06/2011 9:52:19 AM PDT
by
JoeProBono
(A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
To: Mr. Lucky
the 1882 United States Supreme Court Case of United States v. Lee. The US government seized Lee's Arlington estate for the alleged non-payment of taxes. After the war, Lee's family sued the tax commissioners, alleging that the seizure was unlawful. The Supreme Court ruled in favor of the Lee family, which later sold the estate to the federal government for $150,000.
Looks like the Lord eventually worked things out for the Lee family . . . just took a while. . .
and as an added "plus", we are now blessed with the beautiful Arlington National Cemetery.
186
posted on
04/06/2011 9:53:26 AM PDT
by
mstar
(Immediate State Action)
To: Idabilly
I don’t collect welfare, never have. We put a republican governor in office to try and do something about the mess this states in Johnny Reb. Soviet States? Yeah right. So how about it? Are you going to march on Washington or what?
187
posted on
04/06/2011 3:49:05 PM PDT
by
jmacusa
(Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
To: Idabilly
The war was started by Southern treasonous scum who wanted to create ‘’a great slaveholding Confederacy, stretching its arms over a territory larger than any power in Europe possesses’’- South Carolina governor Francis Pickens.
188
posted on
04/06/2011 3:53:35 PM PDT
by
jmacusa
(Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
To: mstar
So, if you want to know, do some research... Richmond had a very active and well documented red light district.
189
posted on
04/06/2011 10:56:51 PM PDT
by
donmeaker
("Get off my lawn." Clint Eastwood, Green Ford Torino)
To: mstar
Of course, the black slaves were left looking for their payday...
190
posted on
04/06/2011 10:58:55 PM PDT
by
donmeaker
("Get off my lawn." Clint Eastwood, Green Ford Torino)
To: donmeaker
Of course, the black slaves were left looking for their payday... Maybe we need to cut some reparation checks. Would that make you feeeeeeel better?
191
posted on
04/07/2011 4:41:50 AM PDT
by
cowboyway
(Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
To: cowboyway
I was reading a few days ago about a letter from a former slave to his former owner. The former owner had learned where his educated and valuable slave was living and working and made an offer to him and his wife to return to where he had been a working slave for 11 years, because “no other man could treat him as fairly”. The slave wrote back, forgiving his former ‘master’ for the occasional corporal punishment and the indiscretion of shooting at him as he escaped. The former slave noted that he had his free papers now, and before he returned, he wanted to know what wages were offered, and offered an estimate of the wages due him and his wife for 11 years, less room and board that had been extended. It was a sizable sum, unlikely to be available on short notice in those days, over 10,000 dollars.
I don’t think any former slaves are still above ground to be compensated. If there were, they would be owed compensation by their former owners. I think over 600,000 US soldiers who paid with their lives to put down the rebellion would make any reparations drawn from one race to be paid to another grossly unfair. I think we would do with fewer decisions made by race in this country, not more. I also think that funneling money or services through the government tends to be grossly inefficient. Better would be to have the admitted beneficiaries of slavery, such as Brown University, (founded by a family that profited from slave trading) should do what they think is right to help the heirs of the people they wronged, for the good of their souls.
Your mileage may differ.
192
posted on
04/07/2011 6:46:59 AM PDT
by
donmeaker
("Get off my lawn." Clint Eastwood, Green Ford Torino)
To: southernsunshine
Of course if the estates were not in debt, then Lee lied, to get away from his duty in Texas- very dishonorable by the lights of those times.
If Lee could pay the debt from his previous savings, then he used that excuse to extend and extend again his absence from his regiment, then that would be very dishonorable. I don’t think he was dishonorable, by the lights of his times. Perhaps you do.
So, we have an estate that could not pay for itself, indolent slaves, land that was restricted from being sold, and after a few years, all debts paid, the slaves referenced in the will paid to settle outside Virginia, and an offer to the US government to pay the back taxes in specie (which was turned down). Quite a turn around. More brilliant than any of his battlefield victories, accomplished by a man who had never worked as a farmer.
And where are the girls?
193
posted on
04/07/2011 6:57:04 AM PDT
by
donmeaker
("Get off my lawn." Clint Eastwood, Green Ford Torino)
To: donmeaker
Of course if the estates were not in debt, then Lee lied, to get away from his duty in Texas- very dishonorable by the lights of those times.If Lee could pay the debt from his previous savings, then he used that excuse to extend and extend again his absence from his regiment, then that would be very dishonorable. I dont think he was dishonorable, by the lights of his times. Perhaps you do.
Still have on your tin foil hat, I see. Documentation of ALL sources of income and expenditures, please. (Hint, ALL is capitalized for a reason. Think about it.) We're looking for the gold, remember?
To: donmeaker; southernsunshine; cowboyway; Idabilly; central_va; mojitojoe
Look The Don, I have no interest in your sick tales. . . you got that.
If you have copies of financial records to prove all this sordid buying and selling then post them as Sunshine requested.
Once more. . .
DO NOT PING ME AGAIN.
195
posted on
04/07/2011 8:18:41 AM PDT
by
mstar
(Immediate State Action)
To: donmeaker
Ex wife brainwashed you, that’s what I think.
196
posted on
04/07/2011 8:48:19 AM PDT
by
mojitojoe
(In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
To: mstar
So it is your pretense that there were no cash transactions in the Antebellum south? Tell me, is that really your position?
197
posted on
04/07/2011 3:54:37 PM PDT
by
donmeaker
("Get off my lawn." Clint Eastwood, Green Ford Torino)
To: southernsunshine
So you deny that cash transactions took place? That is really your contribution?
198
posted on
04/07/2011 3:56:39 PM PDT
by
donmeaker
("Get off my lawn." Clint Eastwood, Green Ford Torino)
To: Happy Rain
If the South would not have burned down Chambersburg, maybe the rath of the North would not have been so bad. We will never know.
The cry, "Remember Chambersberg" had a lot to do with it.
199
posted on
04/07/2011 4:03:37 PM PDT
by
AGreatPer
(Voting for the crazy conservative gave us Ronald Reagan....Ann Coulter)
To: donmeaker
So you deny that cash transactions took place? That is really your contribution?There's a process which must transpire before you get to cash transactions. Documentation, please. I'm still waiting. We're looking for the gold, remember?
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