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The Roman Ninth Legion's mysterious loss
BBC ^ | March 16, 2011 | Unknown

Posted on 03/16/2011 4:28:52 AM PDT by decimon

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To: decimon

My favorite was the 7th legion (Trajan’s). The 10th legion (Julius Caesar’s) was totally overrated.


41 posted on 03/16/2011 6:22:58 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: Straight Vermonter

” There are at least a couple of examples where legions (and their Eagles) were lost and the legion numbers were never reused.”

The Battle of Teutoburg Forest, 9 AD. A confederation of Germanic tribes led by Arminius destroyed the 17th, 18th, and 19th Legions.


42 posted on 03/16/2011 6:23:26 PM PDT by Pelham (California, formerly part of the USA)
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To: Pelham

Yes indeedy. And the Emperor Augustus was heard to rail on more than one occasion: “Quintilius Varus where are my eagles?”


43 posted on 03/16/2011 6:27:18 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

Augustus simply needed to send his old friends Lucius Vorenus and Titus Pullo after those Eagles.


44 posted on 03/16/2011 6:41:46 PM PDT by Pelham (California, formerly part of the USA)
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To: decimon

save for late read


45 posted on 03/16/2011 7:17:08 PM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: wildbill

Not forgetting the military prerequisite for the cursus honorum. I thougth about including it in my post, but didn’t want to overly complicate the discussion.

As I understand it, in theory 10 years or 10 separate campaigns of military service were required. I am unaware of any requirement this had to be in the cavalry, and I believe most young aristocrats served in the contubernium of a general, essentially on his staff, as you say. The young J. Caesar, as a non-typical example (there wasn’t anything typical about him), served his 10 campaigns all over the Med, in a wide variety of positions.

I wouldn’t have a problem with a military service requirement for political office in this country.


46 posted on 03/16/2011 7:21:08 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Tallguy

The period of the Antonine Emperors was the most stable in the Empire. Essentially no civil conflict From Nerva until the death of Commodus. It was preceded by the Flavian dynasty from Vespatian to Domitian. Domitian was a tyrant who was assassinated and the Senate installed Nerva. Domitian succeeded the Julio-Claudian dynasty after the chaos following Nero. So all of the mess of civil war in Imperial times started in the 180’s, with the exception of 69 AD.


47 posted on 03/16/2011 7:50:41 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Liberty and Union, Now and Forever, One and Inseparable -- Daniel Webster)
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To: wildbill
The Cursus Honorum for the Knightly class was command of an auxiliary unit or service as a Primius Pilus in a Legion.
48 posted on 03/17/2011 6:00:18 PM PDT by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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To: JRios1968

No..Obamaus Maximpadious


49 posted on 03/20/2011 7:36:51 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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