Posted on 03/11/2011 7:51:18 PM PST by Daffynition
Wonder if this guy gets worked up about losing liberty; about the bankruptcy of the nation; the take-over of the nation’s health care industry or just a T.V. and having to show his receipt. I suppose there are priorities. What a doofus.
This is a fellow american; no wonder this country is in trouble.
It a private business, if you don't like it, don't shop there.
It's like big government telling bars and restaurants that the can't have smoking or use this or that oil to cook food.
Walmart should be able to do what it wants.
People will demand to see a receipt but not the Presidents birth certificate?
No offense, but you are naive.
They're timestamped, and searched if necessary. Much more efficient and less litigious.
There's something about this notion that any given retailer is powerless to secure their own merchandise on company property that just doesn't sit well with me.
In the case of large items, such as wide screen TV's, A thief and a purchasing customer are virtually indistinguishable with regard to probable cause if, for arguments sake, we eliminate any electronic security measures from the item itself. In other words, the only difference between a thief and a purchasing customer is that the later passes through the register on the way out. This is because you can not conceal the item, therefore, behavior can not be an indicator as to intent. That seems to skew the odds in the thief's favor if he is able to defeat the electronic security measures. In such a case the store is only left with one option...visual confirmation of the receipt. I'm having a hard time believing that retailers are legally prevented from implementing such a system, in some way, on their own premises if they so choose. Of course, doing so may bad for business, which is probably why most retailers don't.
So, If Walmart knows that people are literally walking out the doors with wide screen TV's without paying for them, I'm to believe there's not a damn thing they can do about it?
Something doesn't sound right here...
or is afraid to walk thue a picket line, tough guy!
“You can’t fight city hall . . . . . but . . . . you can piss on the steps.”
Oh well . . . . Who . . .
LOL! That happened to me first day in Charlotte, NC. Went to a corner store to get to some beer and held the door open for this guy coming out. Once I got inside the clerk is gasping like a fish out of water and pointing at the guy I just let out saying he just robbed her.
I'll admit, it was funny at the time :-)
Yes, many states do run stings. The law says that anyone who appears to be under 40 yo must have valid ID to purchase cigarettes and liquor, and that the store must check, and that civil and criminal penalties attach to failure to verify valid ID.
Yup, me too. If they ask for a receipt I say “No thank you” and keep walking.
I’m tired, I’m hungry, it’s the end of my day, my purchases are in a Wal-Mart bag and I don’t want to submit to some yahoo rifling through my bags, nor do I want to stop and pull my receipt from my pocket.
If they think I’ve stolen something, let them call the cops, otherwise, with no probable cause, and me wanting to get home and not be interrogated, get out of my way...
Ed
Where does it stop? What if they wanted to search your pockets? Search your wallet? Pull your weapon (if you’re carrying) and examine it? Examine your driver;s license?
Your purchase is YOURS the moment you paid for it...if you think someone can inspect your private property because you are on their property, do they have the right to search your car? No...they’re not LEO’s and your purchase are YOURS, as are the contents of your wallets and your pockets...
Ed
A large part of the “shoplifting” problem is really employee theft. One tactic is the cashier pretending to scan an item and bagging it for an accomplice. Granted this is usually done with smaller items but if they could get away with televisions, they’d probably do it.
I stopped buying at Radio Shack years ago because they always hassled me over not giving them my zip code...I wish Oregon had a law like that!
Ed
What people object to is the docile, slumbering attitude that says “yes, we will do whatever an authority figure tells us to do, even if it is against state law.”
Historically speaking, Americans were strong, independent people who didn’t take kindly to strangers ordering them to stand in line and let your person be searched, “no arguments now...just do what the man tells you to do.”
That we see such docility now, even in the freedom-loving confines of Freep, alarms us classical, freedom-loving Americans who don’t like being ordered around by people, against state law.
Ed
And if they want to search your pockets? Your wallet? Your car?
Your private property is your private property and no on should submit to it being searched without PC.
Ed
Not at the expense of a customer, no.
Everyone on this thread who thinks differently is absolutely wrong legally (and morally).
The person on this thread who says this is how our freedom dies, by paper cuts gets the gold star. This is conditioning. No one should let the Receipt Nazis do this to them. No one. But this is 1950 anymore, I guess. People are made of mush now.
Don't forgot the Department of the ReichsFatherland cooperation Walmart is engaging in. That alone disqualifies them from any 'benefit of the doubt'.
It is an illegal search (and or detention) because WalMart is not private property in this regard. It is open to the public.
Sam's club is different, at least on the face until tested, as their membership agreement allows inspection of goods.(I'd argue that since they don't refuse membership to anyone that the same rules apply, and state law STILL Applies.)
Further the vast majority of shrinkage is from employee theft. Not customers.
Essentially you are being harassed to make sure their own employees are honest.
Not my problem.
Thank you. They are the problem. The warm milk conservatives. Freedom only when it's something they care about.
That might be written policy, but it ain’t how they train the Receipt Nazis.
Intentionally, I’d bet. So when sued they can maintain plausible deniability.
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