VANITY; Islam gave us "Zero".

2/10/11 | Self

[jd777]

I think the story has some more complex aspects to it than might appear on the surface - but i want to say, you're a very sharp guy - and you're a credit to FR.

Thanks for responding.

[jd777]

Thank you for the response. I wish I hadn't used the "zero" pun - alas, It was a rhetorical device. And your criticism is valid

However, Can I refer you to one contribution that the Europeans received and used for over 600 years in Europe for the benefit of our Civilization

It was called "The canon of Medicine"

From Wiki:

a 14-volume medical encyclopedia compiled by Ibn Sīnā (Avicenna) and completed in 1025.[3] It presents a clear and organized summary of all the medical knowledge of the time.[4] Originally written in the Persian and Arabic language, the book was later translated into a number of other languages, including Latin, Chinese, Hebrew, German, French, and English.[5] The Canon is considered one of the most famous books in the history of medicine.[6]

Health! JD

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"However, Can I refer you to one contribution that the Europeans received and used for over 600 years in Europe for the benefit of our Civilization"

Have you heard of the Roman physician Galen? His works were studied until the 19th century.

[jd777]

Excellent addition to the thread. Hear Hear! But - as my article mentions -the works of Ancient Rome and Greece - The Great treasures of the world - were all but completely lost in Western Christendom by AD 1000. Hard to believe but it is true. They did not know of those works existence.

From the 11th century onwards, Latin translations of Islamic medical texts began to appear in the West, Among those was ibn Sina's Canon of Medicine and the the much earlier Work of Galen et al.

But they were received back to Europe - translated from Arabic.

[Crim]

Stll pimping Islam I see... Pederasty..aka....buggery... Middle East and Central AsiaIn pre-modern Islam there was a "widespread conviction that beardless youths possessed a temptation to adult men as a whole, and not merely to a small minority of deviants."[42] In central Asia the practice is reputed to have long been widespread, and remains a part of the culture, as exemplified by the proverb, Women for breeding, boys for pleasure, but melons for sheer delight.[43] In the Ottoman Empire culture, young male dancers, usually cross-dressed in feminine attire, were called Köçek. Youth conversing with suitors Miniature illustration from the Haft Awrang of Jami, in the story A Father Advises his Son About Love. Freer and Sackler Galleries, Smithsonian Institution, Washington, DC.In post-Islamic Persia, where, as Louis Crompton claims, "boy love flourished spectacularly", art and literature also made frequent use of the pederastic topos. These celebrate the love of the wine boy, as do the paintings and drawings of artists such as Reza Abbasi (1565 – 1635). Western travelers reported that at Abbas' court (some time between 1627 and 1629) they saw evidence of homoerotic practices. Male houses of prostitution amrad khaneh, "houses of the beardless", were legally recognized and paid taxes.[44] Osman Agha of Temeşvar who fell captive to the Austrians in 1688 wrote in his memoirs that one night an Austrian boy approached him for sex, telling him "for I know all Turks are pederasts".[45] In 1770s, Âşık Sadık the poet wrote, in an address to the Sultan: Lût kavmi döğüşür, put kavmi bozar. Askerin lûtîdir, bil Padişahım ("The people of Lot fight, the people of idolatry spoil. Know, my Sultan, that your soldiers are sodomites"). In Afghanistan in 2009, the British Army commissioned a report into the sexuality of the local men after British soldiers reported the discomfort at witnessing adult males involved in sexual relations with boys. The report stated that though illegal, there was a tradition of such relationships in the country, known as "bache bazi" or boy play, and that it was especially strong around Kandahar.[47] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty

[jd777]

Dear Crim - it's great to hear from you again. I missed you ;) And what work you did on that topic. You seem very involved with your research, Well done. I certainly won't bother to summarize homosexuality in Euope since Ancient Greece Rome, and the Renaissance. Like I care. But I will Quote Winston Churchill: "The real traditions of the British Navy are rum, buggery and the lash."

And how about that Pope Benedict and his "hunky" (not my word) private secretary?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/04/21/2008-04-21_pope_benedicts_hunky_private_secretary_h-2.html

Seems like everybody in power has their own body man aka "Reggie Love".

Ferstay?

[Crim]

Nice crabwalk and attempt at a bait an switch...too bad the british buggery was between MEN , not MEN and BOYS which is STILL an islamic tradition....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

Which is ironic seeing as the penalty under sharia law for homosexuality is Death.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_topics_and_Islam

[fanfan]

Why don't you write about the harm? That's your job, My job is to love thy neighbor as I love thyself.

Maybe you heard different?

WinTheFuture are you talking about?
My job?
Heard different? About what?

You posted a vanity and invited discussion.
I made a post and asked you a question.

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"But they were received back to Europe - translated from Arabic."

Where did the muslims get their versions? From the Byzantines - a.k.a. Eastern Roman Empire. The returning crusaders were heavily influenced by Constantinople.

The one positive aspect of the muslim conquests was their imposing a single language over a huge geographic area which facilitated the spread of ideas from east to west.

[jd777]

MY apology - I just saw that the question was - will you now write about the harm of a religion? - I felt that topic had been covered here ad infinitum.

Thank you for reading and responding to my post. I appreciate your input. Cheers, JD

[fanfan]

Seriously?

;-)

[fanfan]

No harm done.

:-)

[SunkenCiv]

;’) Those with the Subzero also discovered cubes. They weren’t the first. ;’)