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Dishes Still Dirty? Blame Phosphate-Free Detergent
NPR ^ | December 15, 2010 | Elizabeth Shogren

Posted on 12/23/2010 9:45:22 AM PST by lacrew

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To: bunkerhill7
I wash my dishes in battery acid.

How do you get the dishes in and out of those little holes?

41 posted on 12/23/2010 10:42:42 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: lacrew

Econuts are always harping on homeowners to use phosphate-free fertilizers.

Go get Monsanto and all the other huge factory farmers to stop using phosphates first, then come and talk to me.


42 posted on 12/23/2010 10:49:07 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Of course, the econuts are also the same groups of people that believe human population needs to be reduced by 5 billion from where we are now.


43 posted on 12/23/2010 10:50:52 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Electric Graffiti

“This Eco-Fecal freak sh!t is way out of hand.”

The Eco-Commies would force our living standards down to the level of North Korea if we let them. My question is, how much abuse will Americans endure before they get physical? With so many unreliable Republicrats in Congress, traditional representative government isn’t functioning as it should.


44 posted on 12/23/2010 10:52:24 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: lacrew

Good post!

I’ve been having trouble with our dishwasher. Started about 6 months ago. I switched over to a no-name brand and instantly had better performance (My state is not one of the states).

I’m going to have to check labels.

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BTW
States instituting the rule include Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, New Hampshire, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington and Wisconsin


45 posted on 12/23/2010 11:01:38 AM PST by kidd
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To: TexasRepublic

More unintended consequences from the envirowhackos.


46 posted on 12/23/2010 11:02:21 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Remember March 23, 1775. Remember March 23, 2010)
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To: lacrew

I have to disagree with your statement about farmers using too much fertilizer. Perhaps, decades ago, yes, but costs these days are so high, a farmer will use only just what is necessary to do the job.

I think there are two other culprits.
1.) The average homeowner with a lawn—do they use the entire huge bage of fertilizer in one summer, when only a cup or so will do?

2.) The average diet of a human being, in most areas I suppose, is mostly grain based. This can make for a nitrogen rich feces, which is then flushed down the toilet, then treated at the local sewage plant, then released into the local waterway. I am not sure all of the nitrogen is recovered from the waste stream before being put back into the local waters.


47 posted on 12/23/2010 11:03:54 AM PST by yellow rubber ducky (One day I realized I am living in Bizarro world.)
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To: lacrew

Oddly enough, Young and Wright (the two consumers mentioned in the article) are from Florida and Texas, neither of which has banned phosphates.

They would do better by switching to local or no-name detergents that may contain phosphates.


48 posted on 12/23/2010 11:04:17 AM PST by kidd
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To: kidd

I live in Florida. I just checked the no name detergent I bought at Publix, and it is proudly phosphate free.


49 posted on 12/23/2010 12:32:11 PM PST by Bluebird Singing
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To: lacrew
They started talking about this ban in our state 12 months before it happened. From that point on, we would buy 4-6 BIG boxes of Cascade WITH phosphates every time we went to Sam's Club.

We will outlive our Cascade supply. Then our son can decide whether to use it or sell it for maximum profit.

50 posted on 12/23/2010 12:42:38 PM PST by brewcrew (Life is tough. It's tougher if you're stupid. --John Wayne)
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To: brewcrew

I meant to say that our Cascade supply will outlive us. Doh.


51 posted on 12/23/2010 12:43:30 PM PST by brewcrew (Life is tough. It's tougher if you're stupid. --John Wayne)
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To: lacrew

To all who have asked how much and how to add TSP. I just added around two tablespoons to the soap compartment, and filled the rest with Cascade. It worked perfectly. With each successive load, I am adding a little less, to see where the tipping point is...that’s how I plan to figure out how much.

I was able to find TSP at Home Depot; but, yes, I was almost tricked into buying TSP substitute....so read the label carefully. I bought a two pound box for around $9.


52 posted on 12/23/2010 1:29:20 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Jolla

Samo...Samo on this end. Hand washing is the best way to wash dishes using Dawn. :-)


53 posted on 12/23/2010 1:30:22 PM PST by TrumpisRight (Proud Moose head....)
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To: lacrew

Oh, and to answer all the questions about safety...it was in the detergent before, just a few months ago...with no problem. We need phosphorous to live, its in alot of foods, we guzzle it in soda. It shouldn’t be a big deal if there is a residue left on the plates...and as it turns out, it Doesn’t leave a residue.

And yes vinegar works for some people...but if you have hard water, it really doesn’t help.

This TSP is not some ‘home grown recipe’...its simply adding back in to the formula the ingredient the environazi’s have taken out.


54 posted on 12/23/2010 1:37:07 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: brewcrew
We will outlive our Cascade supply. Then our son can decide whether to use it or sell it for maximum profit.

You'll find an expiration date on the jugs, believe it or not....last year we had unrelated dishwasher problems, and one of the symptoms was extreme 'foaming' which screws 'em up - root cause was that we'd bought out-dated Cascade.....and at Sam's also.

55 posted on 12/23/2010 1:56:42 PM PST by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: lacrew

TPS—is it expensive? I have been using Lemi-Shine with good results, but it’s kind of expensive. I hate the EPA.


56 posted on 12/23/2010 3:11:54 PM PST by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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