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Cleopatra Not First Female Pharoah of Her Line: Queen Arsinoe II, an Olympian medalist...
Discovery News ^ | Thursday, December 2, 2010 | Rossella Lorenzi

Posted on 12/12/2010 8:29:43 AM PST by SunkenCiv

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To: dools0007world
The Olympic Games were held at Olympia in the Peloponnesus, not on Mount Olympus. The stadium, along with temples, treasuries, and buildings connected with the athletic contests have been uncovered by German archaeologists at Olympia.

Professor Elizabeth Carney of Clemson University has done a lot of work on Hellenistic queens, including those of the Ptolemaic dynasty--Google "Elizabeth Carney Clemson University Arsinoe" and various items will come up.

21 posted on 12/12/2010 9:51:37 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: SunkenCiv; 1010RD
The Historical Origin of the Name Jesus

The origin of the name Jesus is from the Greek god Zeus who is the same as the Roman god Jupiter. Jesus or Iesus is the Greek and Latin spelling of the name. Prior to the invasion of ancient Kemet by Alexander the great in 332 B.C.E, the Greeks had no alphabet or written language. Greeks at this time were warlike barbarians fascinated by the intellect of the people of ancient Kemet (Egypt).

The Greek invaders wanted to be included in the secret Egyptian spiritual system but there was a problem; the priest teachers could not accept the Greeks into the spiritual system because human form could not be worshipped as Gods in ancient Kemet. People in ancient Kemet paid homage to ancestors and tried to stay in tune with the universe through the principles of Maat. The Greek invaders eventually convinced a group of priest teachers in the city of Memphis to accept the worship of a god in human form in 320 B.C.E.

One of the first task of the traitor priest also known as the Melchite Coptics, due to Memphis being their home, was to take one part of the Medu Netcher writing system and adopt it to the Greek language. This is called the Hieratic Demotic, proof of this act can be seen later when the Rosetta stone was used to decipher a small portion of the Medu Netcher.

Alexander’s general Ptolemy took control of Kemet after Alexander’s death. He was the person who convinced the Mechite Coptics to accept him into their spiritual system and to be worshipped as a god in 320 B.C.E.

Amazingly, Ptolemy’s other Greek name was Soter which means savior. This title was given to him due to his military conquest. Page 2 In order to make Soter into a god, the Melchite Coptics fused Osiris, who was worshipped as a god with the sacred Apis bull of Memphis. These two words combined give you Osirapis or Serapis, which means the savior and leader of souls to the light. He was also called the one who raises the dead and protector in the after life. This figure of Serapis was later forced upon all of the people of Kemet to worship and was placed alongside Isis, breaking the link between Osiris and Isis. Those who did not accept the image worshipped secretly in their homes. The Romans later conquered Kemet and by 543 A.C.E. the first Roman church was built in Kemet, called the Coptic monophysite church.

The Roman emperor Justinian appointed Baradai a priest from this church to evangelize among the Arabs, this led to Mohammed receiving information concerning this new religion and creating Islam.

196- 197 B.C.E. Ptolemy V Epiphanes Eucharistos (Ruler of Egypt) celebrates a holiday to honor the Melchite Coptic Egyptians who created Serapis and worship him as a god. This was called the Eucharist and is used in the Catholic Mass. (Notice the Christ in the name.)

325 A.C.E. After Constantine made Christianity an official religion the only title given to the Christ image was Serapis. The Greeks continued to call him Zeus (Iesu) in their language or Serapis when in Egypt and the Romans called him Jupiter (Iupiter).

431 A.C.E. The council of Ephesus introduced the Christ Serapis as the Messiah, during this event Isis was stripped of her attributes turned into the virgin Mary to appease the Romans. During this time there is no letter J. The capital Latin I and small i functioned as the g or j sound. For the next 800 years the I or z as in Iesu or Iupiter took the form of the sound we call the letter j. All of these letters have their root in the Egyptian alphabet.

1240 A.C.E. The monophysite Christians developed a new name for the human god or Christ Serapis due to the outdating of the name. The Romans and Greeks only used the name Serapis when in ancient Kemet. A new international name needed to be created to Page 3

suit all of the Christians. Part of the idea to create a new name was due to Muhammed being accepted as leader of the religion Islam.

1245 A.C.E. At the first Ecumenical Council of Lyons, under the leadership of Innocent the IV. The name Iesu or Zeus was chosen as the official name for the Christ. Iesu was known as the Nur Muhammed Haqiqa (to sing praises) or new Muhammed, one who was divine and to worshipped as god, unlike the human faceless prophet Muhammed.

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Civ likes these kind of links...

22 posted on 12/12/2010 9:55:29 AM PST by bigheadfred (STAND IN THE CLOSET AND SCREAM WITH ME)
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To: 1010RD
The Ptolemys only spoke Greek and wouldn’t mix with the conquered Egyptians

Until Cleopatra, then, none of them would "talk like an Egyptian"..

23 posted on 12/12/2010 9:57:58 AM PST by mikrofon (After that, Cleo couldn't keep her Hatsepshut...)
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[snip] In the comedy Lysistrata by the Athenian playwright Aristophanes, a group of Athenian women crowd round a Spartan woman called Lampito. ‘What a gorgeous creature,’ they say. ‘What healthy skin, what firmness of physique.’ And one of them adds, ‘I’ve never seen a pair of breasts like that.’ To which Lampito proudly responds, ‘I go to the gym. I make my buttocks hard.’ [unsnip]

http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/H/history/n-s/spartans2.html


24 posted on 12/12/2010 10:34:42 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv
competed in and won Olympic events

Wonder if she was tested for steroids afterwards......

25 posted on 12/12/2010 10:36:52 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (There's only one cure for Obamarrhea......)
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To: ladyvet

She was Greek. The sister and wife of Ptolemy II. Cleopatra VII, who we call “Cleopatra” was the daughter of Ptolemy XII and was born about 200 years later.


26 posted on 12/12/2010 10:44:33 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Anyone who has read Roman history knows a barbarian invasion when they see one in progress.)
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To: bigheadfred

Interesting train of thought, but the guy references himself as a source with one other questionable person. He cannot prove he didn’t make it all up. It seems even less reliable than Dan Brown’s fiction.

Don’t believe everything you read.


27 posted on 12/12/2010 11:53:25 AM PST by Peanut Gallery (The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of government.)
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To: Peanut Gallery

Didn’t say I believed it.

And it did come with a disclaimer of sorts.

“Civ likes these kind of links... “

;-)


28 posted on 12/12/2010 12:04:31 PM PST by bigheadfred (STAND IN THE CLOSET AND SCREAM WITH ME)
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To: mikrofon

And after her death, the “Hero Takes a Fall”. ;-]


29 posted on 12/12/2010 3:08:18 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Verginius Rufus

I didn’t say the games were held on Mt.Olympus. My point: Egypt never had “Olympic” games.

Other than that, thanks for sharing the info.


30 posted on 12/13/2010 5:44:29 AM PST by dools0007world
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To: vbmoneyspender

Yes, I’m aware of that bit of history. But that does not necessarily infer so-called “Olympic” games were ever held in Egypt as such. The possibility that Queen Arsinoe II competed lends the lie to the claim.

Be assured, I’m not saying that “Olympic” games were never held in Egypt. It’s just that the no evidence is given to the claim. Just saying it doesn’t make it so. I’m sick and tired of the lack of discipline and rigor that is the bane of the softer sciences today—like archeology. Entirely too much PC and historical distortion for political agendas.


31 posted on 12/13/2010 5:54:10 AM PST by dools0007world
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To: bigheadfred

The name “Jesus” is the hellenized or Greek version of the Hebrew name “Joshua” which was pronounced “Yeshua”. I believe it is as simple as that.


32 posted on 12/13/2010 6:27:22 AM PST by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: SunkenCiv
That is from lines 81 and 82 of the Lysistrata (going by the line numbers in the Greek text).

Jeffrey Henderson's translation in the new Loeb edition reads:

"It's true, I think, by the Twin Gods. I do take exercise, and I jump-kick my butt."

Lampito's words are in Doric, or at any rate an Athenian's notion of Doric Greek. She uses the word gymnaddomai which presumably is equivalent to the Attic gymnazomai meaning "I exercise for myself" or "I practice" (the basic meaning is to train naked--from gymnos naked, unclad).

33 posted on 12/13/2010 8:48:50 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Peanut Gallery
It sounds like typical "Afrocentric" propaganda.

The Greeks had the alphabet from the 8th century BC--there are many thousands of surviving Greek inscriptions dating from the mid-8th century to the time of Alexander the Great. There are even Greek graffiti at Abu Simbel in Upper Egypt dating from about 590 BC, written in the Greek alphabet.

34 posted on 12/13/2010 8:52:26 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: bigheadfred

Rodney Dangerfield. :p


35 posted on 12/13/2010 8:54:06 AM PST by Politicalmom (America-The Land of the Sheep, the Home of the Caved.)
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