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Thanksgiving Meat May Promote Caveman Behaviors [ this is a problem? ]
Discovery News ^ | Thursday, November 25, 2010 | Jennifer Viegas

Posted on 12/12/2010 7:50:16 AM PST by SunkenCiv

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1 posted on 12/12/2010 7:50:22 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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"The researchers predicted that when pictures of meat were sorted, as opposed to geometric shapes, participants would inflict more discomfort on the reader. Just the opposite happened, however. The meat images actually resulted in less punishment."

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2 posted on 12/12/2010 7:52:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv

These studies are so bogus.

Turkey is tasty.


3 posted on 12/12/2010 7:53:50 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (Leftys who zone in on Palin miss the point. America's not about single figures. That's for NK/Cuba.)
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To: SunkenCiv

So, if we inherited these “behaviors” from the Cave Man, where did the Cave Man inherit them from...Geico?


4 posted on 12/12/2010 7:55:41 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: FrankR; Christian Engineer Mass
Taste for flesh troubled Neanderthals
by Dr Damian Carrington
BBC News Online
Monday, 12 June, 2000
The extinction of the Neanderthals could have been caused by their choosy appetites - they ate virtually nothing but meat... "They were picky eaters," says Dr Paul Pettitt, at the University of Oxford, UK. "And this tells me that they are really unchanging - doing the same old thing year after year... Neanderthals were excellent hunters," Dr Petitt told BBC News Online. "But the issue that was at stake was whether they hunted every day of their lives or whether it was just a summer outing." ...The early humans themselves may have been better hunters than the Neanderthals, depriving them of their kills. Or the hunted animals may have been struck by disease or migrated away.
What the Hominid Ate
by Kenneth Chang
Analyzing carbon atoms locked up in tooth enamel, two researchers challenge the widely held belief that Australopithecus africanus -- an upright, walking pre-human hominid that lived in southern Africa -- ate little more than fruits and leaves. Matt Sponheimer, an anthropology graduate student at Rutgers University in New Jersey, and Julia Lee-Thorp of the University of Cape Town, South Africa, looked at four A. africanus fossil skeletons unearthed from South Africa. Living about 3 million years ago, A. africanus may be a direct ancestor of modern humans. A. africanus teeth were large and blunt with thick enamel, ideal for crushing nuts and chewing fruit as opposed to the sharp incisors one would want to rip into meat. The first stone tools, which would help in eating meat, didn't appear until about half a million years later. Sponheimer and Lee-Thorp took a new approach, looking at the chemical composition of the tooth enamel. After chipping about two milligrams of enamel with a diamond-tipped dental drill, the researchers analyzed the samples for the isotope carbon-13, which contains one extra neutron in the nucleus compared to the usual form of carbon. What Sponheimer and Lee-Thorp found was that the teeth of A. africanus had an in-between amount carbon-13 -- more than the fruit eaters, less than the grass eaters.

5 posted on 12/12/2010 8:00:09 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv

At least they admitted that their theory on the food promoting aggression was wrong.


6 posted on 12/12/2010 8:01:09 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: SunkenCiv

Lots of things elicit aggressive behaviors in people that have nothing to do with meat or even food. A few examples: fast cars, heavy metal music, power tools, competitive games, and merchandise on sale! LOL.


7 posted on 12/12/2010 8:01:16 AM PST by Starboard
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To: SunkenCiv

The study is incomplete. They tested pictures of real objects against geometric shapes, and all of the real pictures were of a certain type of food.

Repeat with pictures of people, in-race and out-race, then fruits and vegetables, then, oh, say, power tools. Oh and raw meat, too.

As it is described here the study is seriously flawed and does not merit publication.


8 posted on 12/12/2010 8:01:30 AM PST by DBrow
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To: SunkenCiv

9 posted on 12/12/2010 8:01:37 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: SunkenCiv

I come from a HUGE Southern family. At gatherings, there is always more aggression at the desert table than the dinner table. Go figure.


10 posted on 12/12/2010 8:03:15 AM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: DBrow

“As it is described here the study is seriously flawed and does not merit publication.”

A study needs to be done to determine why money is spent on worthless studies.


11 posted on 12/12/2010 8:04:03 AM PST by Starboard
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To: SunkenCiv

We were not designed to fuel our bodies with Wonder Bread and Tofu

http://www.paleodiet.com/


12 posted on 12/12/2010 8:04:03 AM PST by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: SunkenCiv
These vegans are so desperate to end eating meat that they will stoop to any lie to promote their BS.
13 posted on 12/12/2010 8:04:28 AM PST by calex59
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To: FrankR
"Are you comparing me to a lowly Cave Man?"


14 posted on 12/12/2010 8:05:33 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: SunkenCiv

YumYum Eat 'em up.

15 posted on 12/12/2010 8:06:21 AM PST by P.O.E. (Compact Theory)
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To: SunkenCiv

Our tax dollars at work funding another didactic research project. sarcasm/off


16 posted on 12/12/2010 8:06:35 AM PST by free thinker 03 (Wouldn't it be refreshing if politicians actually listened to the people who elected them)
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To: SunkenCiv
You want to see 'aggression', show me how much money was pissed away to tell me people are less aggressive when their next meal is already on the table (especially as associated with a holiday meal, where there is plenty for everyone).

Captain Obvious has been writing grant proposals again...

Besides, how do they know that aggressive behaviours were not required to maintain access to fruits and vegetables (which according to anthropologists grew wild in the 'cave man' days before agriculture).

Most conflict occurs over (natural) resources in human history.

17 posted on 12/12/2010 8:07:57 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Uggh!

Yum!

18 posted on 12/12/2010 8:15:50 AM PST by Young Werther ("Quae cum ita sunt" Since these things are so!)
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To: SunkenCiv

“such as a juicy roasted turkey”??????

not a chance when my mother-in-law is cooking!


19 posted on 12/12/2010 8:16:05 AM PST by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: SunkenCiv

Well, well. Couldn’t give up on their a priori conclusion despite finding the opposite, so they ran with a headline and lead paragraph that just attributes “caveman behavior” to the sight of meat.

No mention that this behavior is actually calm, oh no, it’s buried halfway down. Got to invoke the stereotype they initially sought to reinforce. Men ... cavemen, clubs and violence, dragging wimmyn around by the hair, don’t you know.

Tsk tsk tsk, those unevolved men. Tofu for them! Phytoestrogens! A more equitable society is just around the corner, yes indeedy.

Political scientists flog their pseudoscientific propaganda, the bureaucrats and apparatchiks determine a need to *do* something because of it, and the dumbed down masses nod sagely or just nod off, never having bothered to read much past the headline.

It’s the story of the past four decades.


20 posted on 12/12/2010 8:21:23 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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