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The most under-rated general in American history: Nathaniel Greene?
Foreign Policy ^ | 22 Sep 2010 | Tom Ricks

Posted on 09/22/2010 3:17:47 PM PDT by Palter

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To: Palter

George Thomas, USA, American Civil War. Waaaaaayyyyy under rated and understudied, IMHO.


21 posted on 09/22/2010 3:49:32 PM PDT by tanuki (Obamacare, Cap and Tax, Amnesty, in that order....)
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To: Palter

Greene would be a good choice. Winfield Scott would be another as Polk did everything to try to discredit him after the Mexican War. MacArthur is way overrated in my book and Nimitz is the real victor in the Pacific.

IMHO this might be a case where a famous general is still underrated. His name - William Tecumseh Sherman. The March to the Sea from Tennessee may be the most devasting and unconventional campaign ever waged in North America save Cortes’s conquest of Mexico.


22 posted on 09/22/2010 3:58:52 PM PDT by Lou Budvis (Refudiate 0bama '12)
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To: cripplecreek

George Custer? I thought current thinking still was still that his arrogance and lack of reconnaissance was ultimately what killed him (small loss) and his command.


23 posted on 09/22/2010 4:00:35 PM PDT by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country)
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To: Pharmboy

ping


24 posted on 09/22/2010 4:02:27 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("It's amazing, A man who has such large ears could be so tone deaf" Rush Limbaugh 9/8/10)
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I agree!!! General Nathaniel Greene and General Daniel Morgan were instrumental in defeating the British army in the southland, particulary at the Cowpens, etc. Morgan actually beat the Brits and Greene and while never getting a major victory in the war for freedom, made life utterly miserable for the King’s army. The pullback by the Brits to Yorktown and the military advice of the French to George Washington not to make the final battle in New York, but rather pin down the Brits and defeat them in Yorktown was the clincher for USA independenace. A footnote, just remember, Americans, Lafayette was but nineteen years old when he arrived in America. At the end of the revolution he was just twenty-four years old and, a full blown, decorated American General. IMHO, although many Americans shone as military leaders, I would say Washington, Greene, Morgan and Lafayette had a huge influence on the American victory!!! God certainly smiled on our new nation by blessing us with Lafayette who also came to be almost a son of George Washington!!! Another footnote: I can assure you that POTUS Barack Hussein Obama knows nothing about our revolution for freedom or for that matter anything about our history military or otherwise. He hates America with all his being!!! Wise up folks, you guys screwed up big time, across the board. He who snoozes, loses!!! You all must have been asleep to elect this fool & buffoon!!! He knows nothing about our great country other then to vastly dislike it!!! Remember In November!!!


25 posted on 09/22/2010 4:03:15 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Lou Budvis
'I think I understand what military fame is; to be killed on the field of battle and have your name misspelled in the newspapers.'

William Tecumseh Sherman

26 posted on 09/22/2010 4:03:37 PM PDT by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: teppe

Sounds like you only know what you’ve been told.


27 posted on 09/22/2010 4:04:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Palter

Go walk the ground at Guilford Courthouse.. A great deployment that almost cost Cornwallis the Guards.
( Cornwallis had to fire his artillery into the back of his own troops to get them to fall back out of the trap.)
Next stop for Cornwallis - Yorktown


28 posted on 09/22/2010 4:11:29 PM PDT by Waverunner (")
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To: Palter

US Grant. If Lincoln and his war dept would have listened to him the Civil war would have been over 2 years prior.

BTW. Lee said that up to that time, he searched throughout history and found no equal to Grant. Nearly every General that served under him said about the same. Sherman said that although he could do many things that Grant did better, the one thing Grant did that he couldnt was that Grant didnt give one care about what the enemy was doing..and it scared the heck out of him. The man took charge and ran 5 armies at one time.


29 posted on 09/22/2010 4:30:27 PM PDT by crz
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To: Palter

Not sure where the under rated idea came from. I’ve always thought he was highly celebrated.


30 posted on 09/22/2010 4:32:09 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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General Nathaniel Greene and General Daniel Morgan...

Lets here it for The Old Wagoner. Beat the British in a straight-up fight.

31 posted on 09/22/2010 4:37:19 PM PDT by Plutarch
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32 posted on 09/22/2010 4:41:46 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: Sparky1776

Sparky1776, congratulations on your illustrious ancestor, Nathaniel Greene. You have a lot to be proud of. No wonder your name includes the number 1776.

I looked at your link to the Greene homestead. The architecture of homes from that era is beautiful. I live in California now so owning a home of that beauty is not an option here. Maybe after I retire there will be time to relocate back to New England and into a home of that vintage.


33 posted on 09/22/2010 4:47:24 PM PDT by Sam Clements
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To: Waverunner

The movie The patriot.


34 posted on 09/22/2010 5:07:07 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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35 posted on 09/22/2010 5:15:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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Green mountain boys...Are you thinking about Ethan Allen?

Maybe you’ve got a modern history book too. ;)


36 posted on 09/22/2010 8:10:54 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (Pablo is very whiney)
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Hi Clements - no my ancester was, I believe, a comrade in arms of Greene’s from RI. My ancestor was a member of the Sons of Liberty, the RI War Council, & a privateer. I have a little about him in my profile.

I do however share common ancestry with him thru RI founder Roger Williams.


37 posted on 09/23/2010 7:31:30 AM PDT by Sparky1776
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