Posted on 07/22/2010 6:10:01 AM PDT by Willie Green
“Scenery: It’s A-plus. The windows are wide, offering us breathtaking views of the mountains. We saw mule deer, bald eagles and a moose on our journey.”
This is an amazing statement, last time I was on the Empire Builder, it went through the mountains at night and across North Dakota during the day. Nice planning there.
But yes, it was an otherwise nice 2 1/2 day ride to the west coast.
Beyond that, I don’t see anywhere in the article which suggests, as the headline misleads, that rail travel is “making a comeback”!
Considering what zoos the airports have become - searching Granny and junior, in order to avoid (gasp!) the appearance of Political Incorrectness it would proffer simply to search Moslems - eating a mouthful of tacks would be more pleasant than flying.
On the other hand, occasional train travel CAN be fun, and rather scenic, too.
Agreed. My car has windows, and I can stop whenever I want. Try that on the train.
Amtrak’s capital costs are 100% taxpayer subsidized and its operating costs get 50-60% from the taxpayers even on busy short routes (Chicago-Milwaukee, NE, etc.)
It’s a failed, outmoded and obsolete system with good views.
“The trip was faster and cheaper by car”
And there’s the rub.
Train travel is really nothing more than a novelty in the US anymore.
For the heck of it, I just did a quick cost comparison for a possible upcoming trip: AMTRAK, round trip, was 3 times the cost of flying.
No thanks.
I love train travel. The time spent on the train has to be part of the trip. I have met the most fantastic people from the USA and around the world.
It is relaxing and comfortable.
When I go on vacation, I don’t want to watch the scenery go by. I want to stand and take it in and I want to do it at my leisure.
Train travel appears to be a primarily urban desire that they want the rest of the country to pay for.
As far as training in the USA, no desire.
In 1990, I took the Amtrak from Milwaukee (I live in Racine -just south of Milw) to Williston, ND, to visit friends along the ND-MT border. In early Feb.... and everything you said is pretty true. But since my trip was in winter, and the tracks do go along the highways a good bit, I clearly recall thinking, “God, I’m glad I’m not driving in this weather”. It was very windy and snowy. Now the cost was about equal to that of flying to Bismark, and asking my friends to drive a long way to pick me up. But, I had the time, both ways, and I thoroughly enjoyed the trip .... cuz the cost to me was about the same as a single passenger. Now if we were going as a family, we’d have difinitely driven out there, cuz then the cost of 5 tickets would have far exceeded the cost of driving.
Having said all that.... I did enjoy the train trip both ways.
It’s been my experience on overnight Amtrak trains that the coach car bathrooms, although roomier than an airplane, tend to take on an unpleasant aroma about 24 hours into the trip.
And one trip they overflowed and nothing was done but to shut the door closed.
Unfortunately railroad cars, track, bridges and tunnels are much easier to be come targets than aircraft equipment.
When the Islamic jihadists realize that railroads are far easier to attack they may just wise up and change tactics, thankfully and knock on wood they are in all reality too stupid to think about this.
I would gladly travel by rail, all my life I have had a strong passion for trains, in my early twemties one of my favorite pastimes was indeed rail hopping from Sacramento to Sparks Nv and traveling on a reefer car or boxcar over and through the Sierra Nevada Mnts. Also were the trips down the El Cajon pass in So. Ca, that was almost terrifying!
Where I live in Wasilla, AK we really need a commuter train to Anchorage, my local job is dying and I must commute in the future, my current truck is too much a gas guzzler.If Sarah Palin was still our governor and wasn’t hounded by the liberal press she was going to get the local commuter trains going.
Train travel is really nothing more than a novelty in the US anymore.
You took the quote out of context.
Here, I'll help you out:
The trip was faster and cheaper by car. (Gas was about 32 cents a gallon back then,
There... that should do it....
Now... please explain to us: when do you think we're going to see 32¢ gas again???
And when do you think those piddly little hybrid battery powered Obamamobiles are going to be more powerful than a locomotive???
Of course you will have to buy carbon offsets for the horse flatulence.
I don’t care what they say about Amtrak, I like it. We went from Los Angeles to Flagstaff and it was great! We had one of those mini sleepers.
Now if we were going as a family, we’d have difinitely driven out there, cuz then the cost of 5 tickets would have far exceeded the cost of driving.
Well that's an individual judgment call.
As you thoughtfully pointed out, traveling by train IS much safer in hazardous winter conditions. So for some people the extra cost for the entire family would be worth it. (Don't forget... unlike the airlines, Amtrak offers a 50% discount for children ages 2~15, and infants younger than 2 ride for free!)
For some weird reason, this is the part you see during the daylight hours.
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