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Palin and Supporters Busted - Alaska Offered to Pay Palin Legal Costs
Independent Council Report | 6-26-10 | Bob J

Posted on 06/26/2010 9:37:58 AM PDT by Bob J

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To: Truth is a Weapon
“Look, it is just nonsense to allege that the State of Alaska would pay her legal costs for all time. If the leftist groups kept hitting her with lawsuits, eventually the state’s and Palin’s interest would diverge and the state would cease to fund.”

I did look and I saw it differently. If Alaska was forced to continue paying for all these frivolous lawsuits eventually they would wake up and discover they were paying for frivolous lawsuits and the whole house of PR cards would come crashing down on the dems.

But that's just me, I don't have the brilliant political strategery mind of Palin or her advisers.

“All of that completely ignores whether or not Palin would be comfortable with the wasting of state resources to defend her from repetitive frivolous lawsuits. She obviously was not comfortable with how it was wasting her time in office to help defend these things.”

Obviously she “wasn't comfortable”, she quit. If she's elected prez, I hope she doesn't ever get “uncomfortable” sitting in the oval office.

“Furthermore, it is just silly for anyone to forecast how things would have played out if she had remained in office.”

It's not silly at all. It's only “silly” if one is afraid of the forecast.

“Not only is the writer trying to condemn her for the decision she made but also for things which might or might not have happened in the future.”

I'm not condemning her. I think she made bad decisions and acted stupidly.

“Saying her decision to resign was wrong is an opinion anyone is entitled to hold.”

And apparently a heretical one on FR.

181 posted on 06/27/2010 11:41:07 AM PDT by Bob J
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To: nhwingut

“STFU!”

Finally, a reasoned and polite Palinista response that furthers the “debate”.


182 posted on 06/27/2010 11:42:23 AM PDT by Bob J
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To: Truth is a Weapon

“Furthermore these same people saying she should have used state money for her defense are the same people who would have been screaming that she was wasting taxpayer money once she accepted it.”

On the contrary, I think most would agree if a public official is it with harassment lawsuits and are exonerated the only ethical path is to have the legal expenses covered.

It is also the only way that this kind of harassment will be stopped...when there is a public outcry.


183 posted on 06/27/2010 11:54:51 AM PDT by Bob J
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To: avacado

“Errr... Bob, you may want to brush up on your research. Palin had stated that the frivolous ethics charges were costing the State of Alaska some $1.4 million dollars.”

It was 2 million, was debunked and the Palin administration was forced to tuck tail and retract the statement.

A gov accunting of the cost pegged it at 600k, half of which Palin was responsible for when she demanded the investigation be moved from the legislature to the Personnel Board.

And you talk about my lack of research? You couldn’t even get the primary figure correct.


184 posted on 06/27/2010 12:04:30 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: P-Marlowe

Great post.


185 posted on 06/27/2010 12:21:26 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Bob J
"It was 2 million, was debunked and the Palin administration was forced to tuck tail and retract the statement. A gov accunting of the cost pegged it at 600k, half of which Palin was responsible for when she demanded the investigation be moved from the legislature to the Personnel Board. And you talk about my lack of research? You couldn’t even get the primary figure correct."

Without a link, your post is worthless.

186 posted on 06/27/2010 12:23:45 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Bob
“3. No invoices were submitted to the State by Mr. Van Flein’s law firm, pursuant to this state contract, due to the decision by Governor Palin and her attorneys that it would be too difficult to separate the functions of representing Governor Palin in her official capacity in the pending state-related matters, and representing her in other related campaign or partisan matters beyond the scope of the state contract. Thus, to avoid an appearance of impropriety or any allegation that legal fees were being paid for legal services beyond the scope of the state contract, Van Flein’s law firm and Governor Palin agreed that funding for these services would be sought from sources other than state funding.”

This is nothing but spin and excuses, and bad ones at that. Law firms routinely work on different matters for clients at the same time. Each billable hour and expense is credited to a specific account, it's all supportable in any forensic review.

I understand the Palin’s might have desired more separation between their personal firm and the on handling the ethics complaints but all that meant was finding another law firm. But to base their refusal of the States offer of assistance on the claim it might raise an appearance of impropriety with the Law firm is disingenuous and quite frankly, insulting to anyone with a cursory knowledge of accounting.

187 posted on 06/27/2010 12:27:04 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: Howie66

“Still going to hit the girls eh? What a man.”

Wonderful. So criticism of your candidate for the presidency is off the table because she’s a woman?

More incontrovertable logic from the Palinistas. If anything, this should raise alarms among anyone who isn’t a Palin Zombie.


188 posted on 06/27/2010 12:29:25 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: Vigilanteman
“Every one - all 15 of the ethics complaints have been dismissed. We've won! But it hasn't been cheap - the State has wasted THOUSANDS of hours of YOUR time and shelled out some two million of YOUR dollars to respond to “opposition research” - that's money NOT going to fund teachers or troopers - or safer roads.”

Again, the 2 million was proven to be “spin” and the Palin admin had to retract it.

In computing that number THEY calculated the hours the estimated State employees had to work. As an analogy it's like when the libs claim “the war in Afghanistan is costing 30 million dollars a day” but get that figure by computing the salaries of the soldiers.

They would have been paid anyways, just like the staffers in Alaska. It was an outright lie, easily checked and they had to fold on it.

What I don't understand is why Palin went down that road at all. It was easily challenged and a stupid thing to say.

189 posted on 06/27/2010 12:34:44 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: hinckley buzzard

“Turns out no money has been disbursed from the fund in question. The bottom line finding is that Palin did nothing wrong.”

Nobody including me said she did. I said she made stupid decisions leading to her LDF being ruled an ethics violation resulting in her being forced to return all the donations and starting over.

An epic fail but to the Palin Zombies it’s a victory.


190 posted on 06/27/2010 12:40:56 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“You know the same people calling her a “quitter” would have been screaming for her to resign as she would have clung to office while the lawsuits continue to take their toll.”

Palin staying serving out her full lawful term is now defind as “clinging to her office”...heheh.

“The “quitter” meme is a desperate Plan B cooked up because Sarah completely out-maneuvered her enemies by resigning.”

I forget, she didn’t quit, she “dismounted”.


191 posted on 06/27/2010 12:43:19 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: CAluvdubya
“I say, if you're going to post a Palin opinion hit piece on FR, you should at least use the correct spelling and grammar.”

If you got the facts, pound the facts. If you got the law, pound the law. If you got neither, pound the typos.

192 posted on 06/27/2010 12:44:44 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: P-Marlowe
You sir, are a tool of the left. I know you have been here a long time, but your recent obsession with beating down Sarah Palin tells me that you are either a conservative imposter or a useful idiot. If you were the former you would have been banned a long time ago. Therefore I can only conclude that you are the latter.

Totally false accusation. He is demonstrably NOT useful.

193 posted on 06/27/2010 12:44:44 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: snowrip

“Why didn’t you post the AK state statute that prevents state funds of any kind from being used for legal defense of the Executive branch?”

The Independent Counsel’s Report clearly states Alaska made the offer, obviously they found a way around it.

Unless the state of Alaska employs the same incompetent lawyers as Palin.


194 posted on 06/27/2010 12:46:54 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: Bob J
This is nothing but spin and excuses, and bad ones at that. Law firms routinely work on different matters for clients at the same time. Each billable hour and expense is credited to a specific account, it's all supportable in any forensic review.

And, if they did that, you'd be the first one accusing the firm of fudging the numbers. Your PDS is showing. No reason is ever good enough for you.

I understand the Palin’s might have desired more separation between their personal firm and the on handling the ethics complaints but all that meant was finding another law firm. But to base their refusal of the States offer of assistance on the claim it might raise an appearance of impropriety with the Law firm is disingenuous and quite frankly, insulting to anyone with a cursory knowledge of accounting.

Since you'll never be satisfied, I won't bother responding anymore to your deranged rantings. I really wish FR had an 'Ignore Poster' button so that I wouldn't even have to see them.

195 posted on 06/27/2010 12:55:56 PM PDT by Bob
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To: CAluvdubya

“So Bob....almost 100 posts and no response from you. That qualifies as a hit and run troll poster.”

No, it means I had things to do on a Saturday.


196 posted on 06/27/2010 12:56:40 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: Gargantua

“Actually, Palin stated that dealing with the dozens of frivolous lawsuits was eating at the time she should have been spending being Governor, so she stepped aside so the State could have the full-time Governor it deserved.”

Hey, I got an idea, how about stopping the frivolous sawsuits? The she could have finished her term AND kept this dame thing from happening to any pub in Alaska the dems want to take down.

I got a question for the Zombies, has the ethics law loopholes that allowed the dems to take out Palin been corrected? Why not?


197 posted on 06/27/2010 12:59:54 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: grey_whiskers

SUMM4RY OF PUBLIC FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
AND EXECUI’IVE SUMMARY
1.
There is no probable cause to believe that Governor Palin violated the
Alaska Executive Ethics Act by making the decision to dismiss Department of Public Safety
Commissioner Monegan and offering him instead the position of Director of the Alcohol
Beverage Control Board.
2.
There is no probable cause to believe that Governor Palin violated the
Alaska Executive Ethics Act in any other respect in connection with the employment of Alaska
State Trooper Michael Wooten.
3.
There is no basis upon which to refer the conduct of Governor Palin to any
law enforcement agency in connection with this matter because Governor Palin did not commit
the offenses of Interference with Official Proceedings or Official Misconduct.
4.
There is no probable cause to believe that any other official of state
government violated any substantive provision of the Ethics Act.
5.
There is no legal basis or jurisdiction for conducting a “Due Process
Hearing to Address Reputational Harm” as requested by former Commissioner Walter Monegan.
6.
The Amended Complaint by the PSEA should be dismissed.

And with all those “victories” it’s just a mystery why Palin has to return all those donations.


198 posted on 06/27/2010 1:02:04 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: Terry Mross

“I don’t remember her saying that. I thought she said her staying was costing the state too much money.’

That was a big ass baloney sandwich offered up by Palin and eagerly eaten by the Zombies.


199 posted on 06/27/2010 1:03:37 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: rintense

“Its even more sad to see a freeper slam a politician for actually refusing to use taxpayer money.”

Yes, just like the 250 million Palin returned to the US Treasury when her “bridge to No Where” was cancelled?


200 posted on 06/27/2010 1:05:20 PM PDT by Bob J
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