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Jacques Vallee: Of Crop Circles, meme wars and web-based flypaper
Boing Boing ^ | June 21, 2010 | Jacques Vallee

Posted on 06/23/2010 5:50:16 PM PDT by shibumi

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To: Eastbound; Quix

I guess this wouldn’t be the best time to bring up the Menorah, the symbolism of other sacred Hebrew objects, the fifth level of meaning in the Torah (beyond Pshat, Remez, Drush and Sod) and the relationship of the fifth level numerical sequences to hyperdimensional physics and space travel?

(Nah!)


61 posted on 06/25/2010 9:14:15 PM PDT by shibumi ((Topop Gigiop!!!!!))
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To: shibumi; UriÂ’el-2012; Alamo-Girl; betty boop

WHY NOT,

The above might also be interested.


62 posted on 06/25/2010 9:19:57 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix

WHY NOT?

Mainly because I’ve had a very long day and because of several physical conditions I’ve taken enough pain killer to knock out a horse.

Perhaps on the morrow.


63 posted on 06/25/2010 9:26:17 PM PDT by shibumi ((Topop Gigiop!!!!!))
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To: Quix; Eastbound

If you’re really interested, this is a good starting point:

http://www.fivedoves.com/shema/YHVHShema1.htm


64 posted on 06/25/2010 9:30:13 PM PDT by shibumi ((Topop Gigiop!!!!!))
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


65 posted on 06/25/2010 9:48:35 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: shibumi

Tagged and bumped.


66 posted on 06/25/2010 9:54:03 PM PDT by InternetTuffGuy
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To: InternetTuffGuy

Oh, yeah?!?

Think because yer a “TuffGuy” ya can just bump anybody ya want?

(Thanks!)


67 posted on 06/25/2010 9:57:50 PM PDT by shibumi ((Topop Gigiop!!!!!))
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To: shibumi

PRAYERS FOR YOUR PAINS BRO.

Please do ping Betty Boop and Alamo-Girl with your initial post on such. They are into multidimensional physics/math/cosmology.

Blessings,


68 posted on 06/25/2010 10:31:37 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix

I am of the opinion that Charles Hall is full of $#!+.
There are a lot of reasons...
- His books were written as fiction, they did not sell, so he said it was a true story, they now sell fast.
- He is the only one who has seen them
- The story is far-fetched and biologically, his descriptions are fantasy
- Do you really think that the military is going to give a geologist free reign to wander about amongst secret aliens whenever he pleases without supervision?
- His story about being shot in the neck and stopping the blood flow by pressing his neck into the ground is ridiculous
- His whole story does not stand up to simple logic

I say BS.

There are a lot of people out there who have genuinely seen UFOs and possibly aliens. Charles Hall is not one of them.


69 posted on 06/26/2010 4:22:27 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: shibumi; Quix; All
I tend to think that some aliens are really Sitchin's anunnaki, and that this picture may show what they looked like.Hoagland should have reversed the icon and he would have a much more believable pix.


70 posted on 06/26/2010 8:03:17 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Bon mots

My jury is still out.

Your critique is plausible.

There are certainly some outlandish claims made by him.

On the other side, as a psychologist listening to him in the videos and to some degree in his books and in email exchanges with his wife . . . there’s a lot of flavors of authenticity.

I guess my best assertion at this point is that He and his wife seem to deeply believe the truth of his stories.

There is also a congruence to his mid-Western personna, personality, values.

I’ve read maybe 60-70% of the four books. Still reading. They are at least interesting stories.

I do not believe he is deliberately lying.

Therefore what, I don’t know.

The whole field is full of disinformation, smoke, mirrors, unrealities, multiple realities, multiple dimensions, illusions.


71 posted on 06/26/2010 9:28:13 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Bon mots

I believe he noted that the books were true as he got bolder about the freedom to do so.

BTW, he has a chronic illness. I forget what. Evidently incurable.


72 posted on 06/26/2010 9:29:44 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Eastbound

My jury is still out on Hoagland, too.

Some of his stuff is sort of plausible.

A lot seems to be an enormous stretch, even for me.

I do think he has good contacts and an interesting perspective.


73 posted on 06/26/2010 9:31:17 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: rosettasister

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_kJLrriuC968/Sm1rkACyVvI/AAAAAAAABWA/nVkSq4AeRrg/s1600-h/IWouldTell56_small1.gif

AF TENCAP SPECIAL APPLICATIONS, OBERINT DUM METUANT

TENCAP is an acronym for Tactical Exploitation of National Capabilities, a collection of programs that involve developing tactical (battlefield) applications out of reconnaissance satellite capabilities (which are normally thought of as strategic).

“Special” almost invariably means “black” or highly classified.

The phrase “Oderint Dum Metuant” is associated with Caligula, the First century Roman emperor whose name became synonymous with depravity, madness, cruelty, and tyranny. It translates “Let them hate so long as they fear.”


74 posted on 06/26/2010 2:43:32 PM PDT by rosettasister
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To: Eastbound; Quix

Delayed response - sorry.

Hoagland could be a several day discussion all by himself.

I have come to the conclusion that he is both brilliant and bogus. Not above being sensationalistic and self-serving, he nonetheless stumbles on some very provocative stuff, not the least of which is the cabalistic ritualism practiced by NASA.

Eastbound, your posting of the “Face” pic begs the question (which I have often thought of, but never heard posed) - What if the structures on Mars were not meant to be viewed from space, but rather from beneath the surface?

The Annunaki were supposed to be miners, were they not? And we believe that the surface of Mars was once much more hospitable than it is today?

Perhaps the civilization there went underground, and what we see is the cupola of a dome like structure beneath the surface.

Just a thought.....

(I have looney ones and good ones from time to time.)


75 posted on 06/27/2010 10:31:50 PM PDT by shibumi ((Topop Gigiop!!!!!))
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To: shibumi

Good assessment of Hoagland, imho.

Thx.


76 posted on 06/27/2010 10:51:18 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: shibumi
Maybe it has hinges on it so it can be lifted up like a skylight. A fresh air intake.

It's definitely a strange configuration. Mars was supposed to be a way station on the way to Earth until the atmosphere Mars petered out.

77 posted on 06/28/2010 4:03:39 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound

New Thread:

The Day After Roswell by Philip J. Corso

http://blessedistruth.wordpress.com/2010/07/06/the-day-after-roswell-by-philip-j-corso/


78 posted on 07/06/2010 11:47:39 AM PDT by rosettasister
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To: rosettasister

Thank you!


79 posted on 07/07/2010 8:45:20 AM PDT by Eastbound
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