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Jacques Vallee: Of Crop Circles, meme wars and web-based flypaper
Boing Boing ^ | June 21, 2010 | Jacques Vallee

Posted on 06/23/2010 5:50:16 PM PDT by shibumi

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To: Eastbound

I don’t attach DIVINE anything to them.

I believe they are part of the UFO/globalist END TIMES deception.


21 posted on 06/24/2010 1:38:44 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix

perhaps you can show me some nice crop circles without the tramlines, eh?


22 posted on 06/24/2010 6:06:42 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Quix

perhaps you can show me some nice crop circles without the tramlines, eh?


23 posted on 06/24/2010 6:06:49 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound

I gather you didn’t get my drift earlier.

They are rare. I’ve probably only seen 2 or 3.

You could email Linda Moulton Howe on her website. She might know of such pics.

I don’t keep track of such things.

I know the scientific study of the things is solid and that the tramlines are inconsequential . . . an irrelevant artifact due to the circles ALMOST always being in a farmer’s field.

One of the main reasons is evidently because farmers’ crops are almost always within a certain tolerance of being the same height. That makes the circles crisper and more precise.

BTW, you have not spoken to any of my points from the scientific study shredding your contention that they are human made by folks walking down tramlines.


24 posted on 06/24/2010 8:18:06 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix
" BTW, you have not spoken to any of my points from the scientific study shredding your contention that they are human made by folks walking down tramlines."

I'm not here to contend with undocumented points or to debate crop circles. Only to make the statement that the circles cannot be made without the tramlines. Show me the pix. Take it or leave it.

25 posted on 06/25/2010 12:12:10 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound

Enjoy your sucking at the teat of a serious TYPE II ERROR.


26 posted on 06/25/2010 9:19:10 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix
All ya gotta do is show me the pix. Is it that hard or am I asking too much?

\ A simple request. Contrary to what you contend is of no consequence, the tramlines are the single most important and glaring piece of evidence that the tramlines are necessary to make those fancy figures in the grass.

What's the point in you denying that simple fact? Or are you hanging your belief system on the false notion that crop circles can be made without them, and therefore, supernatural or some such silly thing such as spirits or aliens that don't touch the ground except to whiz by and draw circles in the grass to confound the aborigines?

27 posted on 06/25/2010 12:49:34 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Quix

Cool story. Sounds a lot like Rendlesham / Bentwaters.


28 posted on 06/25/2010 2:10:23 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Eastbound; ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; A knight without armor; albertp; aragorn; areafiftyone; ...

BECAUSE,

as I’ve documented . . .

you are simply wrong.

You make it SOUND LIKE the only explanation for the tramlines being in ALMOST all the pics

is that they HAVE TO BE USED to make the crop circles.

THAT CORRELATION DOES NOT NECESSARILY FOLLOW AT ALL.

Most Jr High students being introduced to statistics and basic psychology can tell you that

CORRELATION DOES

******************NOT**********************

EQUAL CAUSATION!

SHEESH.

I’ve mentioned that many cropcircles have been formed in fields that were freshly rained on and very soggy—easily showing the least bit of a footprint. AND ABSOLUTELY NO FOOTPRINTS WERE FOUND IN ANY OF THE TRAMLINES.

THOSE CASES THROW OUT YOUR ASSUMPTION ABOUT THE CORRELATION = CAUSATION OF TRAMLINES BEING IN ALL THE PICS IMMEDIATELY.

You have not touched a single factor in the scientifically verified differences between authentic crop circles and hoaxed circles and non-circle areas in the same fields.

Your transparent efforts to flee from a TYPE I ERROR leave you sucking 24/7 at the teat of a TYPE II ERROR pretending it’s NOT as potentially deadly. That’s as dumb as saying COORELATION = CAUSATION.

I have told you that there are very few pics without tramlines. One would be sufficient. I don’t even care to bother searching. I know the authentic circles are not formed by hoaxers with boards and strings. I know the tramlines are irrelevant.

Enjoy your TYPE II ERROR TEAT and the consequences of such foolishness, whatever they may be.


29 posted on 06/25/2010 3:33:05 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Bon mots

INDEED IT DOES.

Have you watched any of the Charlie Hall videos on YOuTube?

Reading his 4 books. Interesting narrative.


30 posted on 06/25/2010 3:33:46 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix; shibumi

31 posted on 06/25/2010 3:39:06 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: JoeProBono

INTERESTING MENORAH ONE.

HADN’T SEEN THAT ONE.


32 posted on 06/25/2010 3:44:55 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix

33 posted on 06/25/2010 3:49:28 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: JoeProBono; Zionist Conspirator; UriÂ’el-2012

What do you make of the little thing at the top of the Menorah?


34 posted on 06/25/2010 4:12:56 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix
Dunno


35 posted on 06/25/2010 4:22:26 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: JoeProBono; Quix

There are many times when “dunno” is the most insightful answer possible.

Too many people talk when they should just say “dunno.”

Why do so many people try to cover their ignorance with verbiage in this way?

dunno.


36 posted on 06/25/2010 6:00:16 PM PDT by shibumi ((Topop Gigiop!!!!!))
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To: shibumi

I sure agree with you on that score.

Given my ignorance, I have observed that my rough count has me saying

“I don’t know”

as well as

“I was wrong”

many orders of magnitude MORE than the next 10 runners up combined.

Curious, that.


37 posted on 06/25/2010 6:43:37 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix

All your double talk will never replace pure logic. Just show me the pix. I don’t need all the bull$hit!


38 posted on 06/25/2010 7:00:19 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: shibumi; humblegunner; Eaker; Salamander
Where's my Pimpbusters graphic?

(Ducking for cover)

39 posted on 06/25/2010 7:05:56 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido
Where's my Pimpbusters graphic?

They have those now??!!


40 posted on 06/25/2010 7:08:28 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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